<div dir="ltr"><div>The most frustrating thing about the POA issue is that it seems to be random. When I started my own firm I filed many POA changes, and about half got accepted and half got rejected. They were all substantially identical (inventor assigned to company, and we submitted a 3.73 form with the assignment chain and the POA). There was zero rhyme or reason for what was accepted and what was denied. Calling EBC just got "resubmit it" as the solution. So we just automatically resubmitted with the same information, and hoped that the next iteration went through. They all did, after one or two tries. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Judith</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:04\u202fAM Timothy Snowden via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Yep. I just started my own firm and had that multiple times. I
had several POAs rejected because it was 'changing the assignee'
... and the applicant was the sole inventor. <br>
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of course.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Note,
essentially the same was filed in related case, which was
accepted in the related case.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: Seems one now has to beg repeatedly
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Did
you file a Statement Under 37 CFR 3.73(c) establishing the
right of the new assignee to take action in the application?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Randall
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<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Seems one now has to
beg repeatedly to get a POA/Correspondence Change<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Venting:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sequence
of events requesting change of applicant to new assignee +
POA & Correspondence Address Change:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">8/8/2024<span>
</span>Mail Non-Final Rejection<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/4/2025<span>
</span>Filed Response, with EOT, Change of POA &
Correspondence (included changing the applicant to the new
assignee thus also included a corrected ADS)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/10/2025<span>
</span>USPTO mailed Notice denying the POA/correspondence
change request.<span>
</span>Note: USPTO denial was improper.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/10/2025<span>
</span>Refiled POA/correspondence change request presenting
same information differently<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/12/2025<span>
</span>USPTO mailed Notice of Informal or Non-Responsive
Amendment, claiming that it could not be entered/accepted
since I did not have POA (note, if the response filed February
4 was not entered, then the application would technically be
abandoned bc after 6 month date).<span> </span>I also called the USPTO
to have them review/fix\u2026 but person said they couldn\u2019t really
help except have someone review the change request papers.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/14/2025<span>
</span>So, I filed a response to the BOGUS/IMPROPER Notice
telling them that a formal acceptance of a POA form is not
necessary, as my signature itself indicates that I am duly
authorized to make the submission.<span>
</span>I again point out that I filed a proper change request,
but filed again presenting the same requisite information for
the POA/correspondence change request in a different format.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/20/2025<span>
</span>USPTO denied entry of the POA/correspondence change
request.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2/26/2025<span>
</span>Notice of Allowance mailed, but USPTO still did not
accept the POA/correspondence change request.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/5/2025<span>
</span>I refiled the POA/correspondence change request again
presenting the same information in a different format.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/6/2025<span>
</span>Corrected Filing Receipt mailed that finally updated
the applicant to the new assignee.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">3/11/2025<span>
</span>USPTO finally accepted and entered the POA BUT DID NOT
update change the new correspondence address.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So,
I just filed a paper titled \u201cRequest for Change of
Correspondence\u201d stating:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned
respectfully requests Supervisory review and processing of its
last change request,
<i><span style="line-height:150%">i.e</span></i>.,
Change of Power of Attorney and Correspondence Address, that
was filed March 5, 2025.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned
is <u>begging</u> whomever is reading the instant Request to
please properly process its last change request,
<i><span style="line-height:150%">i.e</span></i>.,
Change of Power of Attorney (POA) and Correspondence Address,
that was filed March 5, 2025.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">The undersigned
has filed multiple POA and correspondence change requests in
the instant application, which each followed the requisite
rules, yet were erroneously denied acceptance.<span>
</span>As such, the undersigned \u2018played the game\u2019 and
resubmitted numerous times presenting the requisite
information in various ways.<span>
</span>As of today, the POA has been accepted, but the
correspondence address has not been updated.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">It is noted that
the undersigned has been using the same form for over 10
years, which form a USPTO person in the Office of Initial
Patent Examination Department instructed was the
best/preferred way to indicate the correspondence address
change (to prevent confusion by the USPTO when processing).<span>
</span>That is, the POA form that was submitted on March 5,
2025 request that the correspondence is changed to the above
indicated Customer Number as follows:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">[Excerpt]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0.5in">Please, I beg
you to properly change the correspondence address of the
instant application to the Customer Number indicated above\u2014as
was requested on the many previously filed requests, including
the Change of POA form that was filed on March 5, 2025 <u>which
was accepted and entered</u>.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Fingers
crossed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please
pray for me and my sanity.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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