<html><head></head><body><div class="yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dear All,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">It has been our experience that after a non-provisional application is filed [e.g. even a CON with benefit claims going back many years] , if there is a 'missing parts' (e.g. filing fees were not paid) mailed concurrent with the FIRST filing receipt, the USPTO does not give a projected publication date in the first filing receipt.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">It is our experience, they always HOLD off on publication (or even giving a projected publication date), even though the '18 month' date has long passed, until ALL 'missing parts' matters have been resolved (i.e. until the USPTO mails a filing receipt with NO accompanying formalities action)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Recently, we filed such an application - we paid all filing fees but did NOT pay extra-claims fees. The first filing receipt enumerated a 'scheduled publication date.'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Together with that 1st filing receipt, the USPTO mailed a 'missing parts' notice asking for ONLY claims fees.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The USPTO diligently published that US non-provisional on the 'scheduled date for publication' set forth in the first filing receipt (mailed together with the 'missing parts' notice). </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In fact, this application was published one week after a response to the 'missing parts' was submitted, and the USPTO considered the application to be 'complete.'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I do not recall this EVER happening -- if memory serves me, the USPTO does not even schedule any publication date until ALL 'missing parts' or 'corrected application papers' matters have been resolved (i.e. until the application is 'complete') - and typically publication is around 12 weeks thereafter. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Working from memory, I think that this has been the pattern for at least a decade.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">QUESTION 1 --> Has there been a policy change?? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">QUESTION 2 --> If we had filed this US non-provisional without ANY fees, would the USPTO still have diligently published, or would they have waited (possibly up until 7 months after filing) for payment of the filing fees, before publishing the application?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">FINAL NOTE --I am not complaining - by law, such post-18 month publication is certainly the USPTO's prerogative (one might even say OBLIGATION) --- I am just trying to ascertain empirically how things are being handled at this time.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I would be very appreciative if someone were to share her/his experience.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Many thanks,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Bill</div></div></body></html>