<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Ugh, I do hope that\u2019s not the case\u2026 <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 26, 2025, at 10:43\u202fAM, John Economou <john.economou@notaromichalos.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you call the USPTO, they will tell you it is the applicant\u2019s responsibility to ensure the certified copy is in the file wrapper. I\u2019ve had a few of these situations recently, and the safest route is to get
the hard copy and submit with a petition. You can try to get them to download the document now, but sometimes they just won\u2019t do it even if you show them it is available (showing the DAS certificate).
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">John S. Economou
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Dryja via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 26, 2025 1:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Michael Dryja <mike@dryjapat.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Certified copy of priority document issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have been transferred a case with the following fact scenario, and am not 100% sure how to proceed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">The priority date of the Japanese application is 9/30/2022, and the US application was filed on 9/21/2023, under 119 (so we\u2019re well past beyond the 4 month date of the filing date and the 16 month date of the priority date). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">The ADS filed with the application properly identified the JP application and gave the correct access code. The filing receipt listed the JP application correctly, and also confirmed that the access code was provided. We did not opt out
of PDX on the ADS.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">The notice of allowance states that \u201capplicant has not filed a certified copy (see letter [date]) of the [US] application as required by 37 CFR 1.55.\u201d<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">There is no such letter dated [date] in the file wrapper. Moreover, the statement is that we applicant did not file a certified copy of the <i>US</i> application \u2014 i.e., the application that is being allowed, not the JP application that
the application claims priority to. Further, as noted above, we did provide the access code correctly on the ADS for the USPTO to get the document via PDX.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">I called the Examiner, who was quite nice but doesn\u2019t know what to do (which is understandable). He suggested I call his supervisor, and I left him a voicemail. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">I\u2019m at a loss how else to proceed. Since we have a notice of allowance, the clock is ticking to paying the issue fee. And it will be a lot easier to get this taken care of before we pay the issue fee \u2014 or at least before the patent is
issued \u2014 then later. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have any thoughts? Should I file an \u201cincoming letter after allowance" <i>now</i> just to get something on the record, and continuing pursuing the matter through other channels? Or maybe file a petition now? I\u2019d like to speak
with someone else as I think that there\u2019s some administrative snafu that someone can easily fix, but don\u2019t have a first clue how to go about finding that person.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"> - Mike.<o:p></o:p></p>
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