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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Has anyone seen any indication when \u201cceremonial copies will be available for purchase for a nominal fee\u201d ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>John Pietrangelo</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Registered Patent Agent</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tech Valley Patent, LLC</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>499 Glen Street</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Glens Falls, NY 12801</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>888-669-5515</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.techvalleypatent.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#0563C1'>www.techvalleypatent.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information that is intended only for the identified recipient. Others must not copy, use, store or disseminate this message or its attachments. If this message was not intentionally sent to you, please e-mail this message back to the sender and then delete this message and its attachments from your computer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Timothy Snowden via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, June 6, 2025 at 4:09</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>\u202f</span><span style='color:black'>PM<br><b>To: </b><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Cc: </b>Timothy Snowden <tdsnowden@outlook.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentpractice] Is the PTO still sending "ceremonial" paper copies?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p>Yep, I just received another one earlier this week.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 6/6/2025 2:59 PM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I have a pile of them about 4 feet thick\u2026</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I told my clients I wasn\u2019t going to send the ceremonial copies unless they specifically asked for them (because of the extra costs in service and courier fees)\u2026 I also told them that I would throw them away after X amount of time.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Problem is that I feel like the moment I trash them, some client is going to ask for them\u2026 and so here I am with this ridiculous growing pile of stupidity that I don\u2019t know what to do with\u2026</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I\u2019ve been thinking that once the USPTO stops sending the ceremonial copies, I am then going to send big \u201cgift\u201d boxes to the clients with all their ceremonial copies that I have been collecting\u2026</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>It\u2019s sort of like Amazon boxes\u2026 very hard to throw away a perfectly good box that I\u2019m never going to use\u2026 but just in case I might need a box of a given size\u2026 <sigh></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Suzannah K. 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the message.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Patentpractice <a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Boundy via Patentpractice<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 6, 2025 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com"><DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] Is the PTO still sending "ceremonial" paper copies?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or is it purely electronic now?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I wish they'd make it a check box -- some clients REALLY want the paper copy with the red and gold ribbon. For some it's a nuisance that they affirmatively do NOT want. I wish the PTO had asked us...<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#667FA0'><a href="https://www.iam-media.com/strategy300/individuals/david-boundy" target="_blank"><span style='color:#667FA0;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=73 height=92 style='width:.7604in;height:.9583in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:~WRD0974.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><span style='color:#667FA0;text-decoration:none'> <br></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;text-align:start'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#606E9A'>David Boundy </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7C869A'>| Partner <span style='background:white'>| </span>Potomac Law Group, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;text-align:start'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7C869A'>P.O. 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