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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I.e., after electing P1, we leave claim 2 as is, and it will be examined only to the extent it covers the elected property P1. Is that correct?
<b>YES<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">As to strategy of what to elect, I choose the species that the client is using. If there are multiple species that the client uses, I elect the more important one.</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patent Lawyer via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2025 11:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patentpractice Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Patent Lawyer <patentlawyer995@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Species restriction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">So, if you have claims like: Claim 1 recites "measuring one or more physical properties of a blob.\u200a.\u200a.\u200a", and Claim 2 recites "the system of claim 1, wherein physical
properties comprise P1, P2, P3, and P4.\u200a" The species restriction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So, if you have claims like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Claim 1 recites "measuring one or more physical properties of a blob...", and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Claim 2 recites "the system of claim 1, wherein physical properties comprise P1, P2, P3, and P4."
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The species restriction is on the properties P1, P2, P3, and P4 in claim 2. The examiner says to pick one of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">And we elect property P1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The species election just says that claims 1 and 2 read on the invention. Right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We leave claim 2 as it is. Right?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I.e., after electing P1, we leave claim 2 as is, and it will be examined only to the extent it covers the elected property P1. Is that correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Assuming the disclosure is enabling for each of the properties (P1 \u2026 P4), is there a suggested strategy for which one to elect?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(I understand about traversing, but I am trying to be sure about what to do with the claims)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>>, Patentpractice Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Richard Straussman <<a href="mailto:rstraussman@weitzmanip.com">rstraussman@weitzmanip.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentpractice] Species restriction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Thanks!</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 6/10/2025 10:01 AM, David Boundy wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 9:39\u202fAM Richard Straussman via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Looking for some guidance. Is it proper for an examiner to issue a species restriction where all of the supposedly different species are present in the same dependent claim (as opposed to separate dependent claims)?
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For example, if claim 1 recites a "writing implement" and claim 2 says, "the system of claim 1, wherein the writing implement is one of a pencil or a ball point pen"? I am used to the type of species restriction issued involving , for example, claim
2 stating "the system of claim 1, wherein the writing implement is a pencil" and claim 3 stating "the system of claim 1, wherein the writing implement is a ball point pen."<br>
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NOTE: I am not concerned with the propriety of such restrictions or the arguments that can be made against them (thank you David for your repeated guidance to the group on those points), only the specific situation where the supposed different species
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