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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I haven&#8217;t had this situation in patent prosecution but the representation agreement should spell out that you do not represent Licensor assuming you decide to represent only
 Licensee, which I would be inclined to go with to avoid issues when the parties disagree on something.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Patentpractice &lt;patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Larsen via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2025 10:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jim Larsen &lt;jim@larsen-ip.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patentpractice] PoA/Representation of licensee and licensor?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Dear Listmates, I have a question of first impression (for me) regarding power of attorney. A new client (Licensee) has, by license agreement, agreed to solely
 &#8220;be responsible for and shall control the preparation, filing, prosecution, protection,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Dear Listmates,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">I have a question of first impression (for me) regarding power of attorney. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">A new client (Licensee) has, by license agreement, agreed to solely &#8220;be responsible for and shall control the preparation, filing, prosecution,
 protection, defense and maintenance of all claims relating to the Patent Rights [i.e., full interest in several existing foreign patents] licensed hereunder which are solely applicable to the Field of Use (&#8220;Licensee Claims&#8221;).&#8221;&nbsp; Note: Licensor is currently
 a part owner of Licensee.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">The agreement also requires that Licensor have a chance to review the text of each patent application &#8220;relating to Licensee Claims&#8221; before filing,
 and &#8220;Licensee shall give Licensor the opportunity to provide comments concerning the preparation, filing, prosecution, protection, defense and maintenance of the Licensee Claims, and shall give reasonable consideration to such comments&#8230;.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Acknowledging the potential breadth of &#8220;relating to&#8221; language, the license agreement was reportedly hard-fought, was executed before we got involved,
 and is not likely to change.&nbsp; So, my question regards power of attorney and (joint?) representation.&nbsp; I think we needn&#8217;t represent the Licensor, and Licensor&#8217;s &#8220;opportunity to provide comments&#8221; does not necessarily require us to directly communicate with Licensor.&nbsp;
 Is it nevertheless advisable to get POA and conflicts waiver from both Licensor and Licensee? Or, since Licensor is a part owner of Licensee, would POA from and representation of Licensee be sufficient?&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">I see these and other variations as each having pluses and minuses, but I bet some of you have dealt with a similar situation.&nbsp; What works best?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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