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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Thanks, all \u2013<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Let\u2019s say this was a clear clerical error.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">For example, in taking allowable subject matter where several dependent claims were allowed, the response noted that the amendment is merely to take allowable subject
matter but one of the limitations was included twice rather than once.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I would think that could be correctable by a certificate of correction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">35 U.S.C. 255 Certificate of correction of applicant\u2019s mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Whenever a mistake of a clerical or typographical nature, or of minor character, which was not the fault of the Patent and Trademark Office,
appears in a patent and a showing has been made that such mistake occurred in good faith, the Director may, upon payment of the required fee, issue a certificate of correction, if the correction does not involve such changes in the patent as would constitute
new matter or would require reexamination.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I would say this arguably falls within the above. A reissue is also a possibility, but obviously much more expensive and time consuming.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">What if the USPTO accepts and issued the certificate of correction, is there any case law where another party challenges the patent based upon the USPTO improperly
correcting the patent?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 13, 2025 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Taboada <ataboada@mtiplaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Issued Claim Hypothetical - Definite? or Definitely Not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unless you can show that this was clerical error (PTO printing error? The language was in the original claims without the redundancy, and in an Amendment the text is duplicated without underline, so it's clear it was an error?), I can't
imagine correcting this by certificate of correction.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unless you are SURE SURE SURE hat this patent will never be monitized/asserted/licensed, fix it now. Once you see an infringer, then reissue or reexam
<b><i>in the best of circumstances</i></b> is three years. If there's a counterparty throwing wrenches into the reissue or reexam, the patent will never reemerge, and then you're stuck with intevening rights. If the real error is correctable by certificate
of correction, correct it now -- don't get yourself on the bad side of the equities, intervening rights, notice, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 1:12<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Alan Taboada via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Happy Friday, Everybody \u2013</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am looking into a hypothetical situation regarding issues surrounding a patent claim that includes duplicative limitations
and whether the claim would be considered indefinite or not.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For example, if an issued claim recited:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1. A widget, comprising:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">a body, and at least one of:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> (b) a flange extending from the middle of the body; or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> (c) a flange extending from the middle of the body.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In the above example, the alternatively recited limitations are not mutually exclusive but the \u201cat least one of\u201d language
allows for multiple clauses to exist, so logically at least, the claim can include both (b) and (c).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But since (b) and (c) are identical, is that a problem with respect to the validity of the claim or would it be considered
definite since if you have or don\u2019t have (b) you have or don\u2019t have (c)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also, I think this could be fixed by a certificate of correction to remove the duplicate limitation, but wondering
if anyone has either had some experience with this or has a different point of view regarding potential issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lastly, even if fixable by certificate of correction, since I believe that you can correct the claim at any time, is
this something that is better left alone and only corrected if you think you are going to assert or perhaps license or sell the patent? Or would you be better served to make the correction immediately upon discovery of the error so that the claim is cleaner
as soon as possible?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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