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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I have just the opposite
experience and find that the informal environment of being in the
same place is more conducive. HOWEVER, that may well be a
function of the people involved - we are all different and
different things work better for different people. I know of
people I have trained who would likely do just as well remotely or
in person. Moreover, personally, I am one of those people who
generally cannot work at home and be as productive as in the
office - whether or not anyone else is there. During the COVID
lock down, within a month, I stopped working from home and was
going into the office as usual on a daily basis.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/3/2025 4:55 PM, Timothy Snowden
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<p>I have personally mentored multiple junior (including new
associates) all over the US fully remotely (video). If anything,
it was easier than in-person. You could cut through a lot of the
awkwardness of physical presence while still being attentive to
facial reactions, posture, etc. If anything, it actually opened
up more mentoring possibilities because they were on their own
turf instead of 'on my turf', and I could 'visit them' (call
them) without invading their space. </p>
<p>I find this beneficial with Examiners as well - I am often able
to connect with them personally on a video interview because of
small little personal touches because they are working remotely
- office touches, views through their window, family touches,
etc. <br>
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Of course, it's not in person, but I find the shift to remote
work holistically an improvement: God created the family as the
fundamental building block of society. Business/work is an
extension of that. Returning work back to the home as the focal
point is an improvement. Experientially, the most productive
people I know are most productive at home surrounded by their
family ... once they've adjusted to focusing in that
environment -- just like we all have had to go through process
of focusing in the environment of all the distractions of an
office (they are legion).</p>
<p>And, to Ronni's point, the way this whole thing - regardless of
its merit - has been carried out has been unjust, unfair, and
totally disrespectful to all involved, including the 'American
people'. Patrick Henry's reaction to Article II of the
Constitution was scoffed at ... his view has been alarmingly
born out several times. And I think I would be described by most
people as a staunch political conservative.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2025 1:53 PM, Richard
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I don't dispute any of
those facts/possibilities. But they also don't refute my
point about the ultimate benefit to the public of in person
versus remote work derived from in person mentoring as a
general matter. Also, it is certainly possible that remote
work has been one (albeit only one) contributing factor to the
negative trajectory in examination quality over the past 20
years?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Remote work has been the norm at least
since 1995. Examiners have moved their homes in reliance
on the remote working that was permitted. This will no
doubt be a hardship for many and they will leave \u2013 thus
reducing the number of experienced examiners. Not to
speak of the cost of the office space that will be needed
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/29/2025 2:39 PM, Ronni Jillions
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<p class="MsoNormal">One possibility is that the agreement
specifically permits examiners to work remotely. If the
agreement is nullified, the PTO can then require
examiners to return to the office. A move that strikes
me as ridiculous if for no other reason that even when
the USPTO in Alexandria opened in 1995, there were not
enough offices for all the examiners. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">An
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style="font-size:11.0pt">(2) is a member of an
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style="font-size:11.0pt">(3) participates in a
strike, or asserts the right to strike, against
the Government of the United States or the
government of the District of Columbia</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">; or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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organization of employees of the Government of the
United States or of individuals employed by the
government of the District of Columbia that he
knows asserts the right to strike against the
Government of the United States or the government
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<p>Here is a posting on a listserv that I
belong to. It seems that Trump is trying
to abolish a union at the USPTO. My guess
is it would be the union that the patent
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Trump tries to abolish PTO union<o:p></o:p></p>
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Trump just purported to abolish the
Patent Office union on the grounds that
the PTO is a national security agency<br>
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Mark A. Lemley<br>
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