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<p>Yes, this is a reminder that when we are crafting an assignment,
we might be reciting a transfer of any of three things that are
not at all the same as each other:</p>
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<li>the ownership of the invention</li>
<li>the ownership of the priority application itself</li>
<li>the ownership of the right to claim priority from the priority
application</li>
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<p>These are not at all the same thing. Depending on what exactly
the problem (with the way the priority application got filed) is,
maybe you only need one or two of these three things.</p>
<p>To take another of David's points ... depending on which
Designated Office we are targeting, what needs to have happened is
that the cleanup paperwork (that cleans up the mistakes that got
made when the priority application was filed) will have take place
<i><b>chronologically prior to</b></i> the filing of the second
patent application (here, the PCT application).</p>
<p>Meaning that it is important to get advice of competent counsel
regarding each Designated Office we are targeting. Here, you can
see that one of the places where David's client wanted to enter
the national/regional phase was EPO. And so he got advice of EP
counsel.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/19/2025 4:17 AM, David Boundy via
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<div dir="ltr">I have had a similar problem. My EP counsel urged
that the paper should <i><b>not</b></i> be an assignment, If
possibl<i>e</i>, the paper should be framed as "right to claim
priority to the provisional was assigned as of (date before PCT
filing) by operation of (whatever you can come up with)." </div>
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I encountered a similar situation where the inventor
initially created LLC1 with the intention of assigning
the ownership of a provisional patent application to
LLC1. LLC1 was listed as the applicant in the
provisional application on an obligation-to-assign
basis. However, the inventor did not assign ownership to
LLC1 and subsequently dissolved LLC1, creating Corp1
instead. The inventor mentioned that it was merely a
name change, which is inaccurate. Now, we need to file
U.S. and PCT applications claiming the benefit of the
provisional.</div>
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My solution is to have the inventor sign an assignment
to Corp1 on behalf of both the inventor and LLC1, as the
inventor was the sole member and manager of LLC1.</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Patent Assignment
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<p><span>No there is only one inventor\u2026 see example
below</span><span></span></p>
<p><span>Charlene Odom is the sole inventor and owns</span></p>
<p><span>CLO inc. but never assigned to CLO inc. CLO
inc is now dissolved and I have a new company with
a 50 percent ownership called CLO Intellectual
Property Holding Company LLC.</span></p>
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<p><span>Can I sign the assignment as the inventor and
co-owner or will both owners of the new company
have to sign?</span></p>
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<p><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Dale
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2025
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Patent
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Correct. Perhaps there was an
employment agreement that not only said I agree to
assign but I hereby assign.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">The risk is that if the patent
is assigned to the holding company, and then files
a lawsuit for patent infringement, and then the
defendant uncovers the relevant facts during
discovery and moves to dismiss for lack of
standing / subject matter jurisdiction.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Do the necessary investigation
now and find out what the facts are.</span></p>
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<p><span>C. Dale Quisenberry</span></p>
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<p><span>Houston, Texas 77069</span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 17 September 2025
at 8:07</span><span lang="EN-GB">\u202f</span><span
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<b>To: </b>For patent practitioners. This
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Randall, isn't it
possible the inventor had an obligation
to assign? </span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">And, if so, perhaps
the subsequent owner of the assets of
the dissolved company could enforce that
obligation? </span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">On Wed, Sep 17, 2025
at 7:59</span><span lang="EN-GB">\u202f</span><span
lang="EN-GB">PM Randall Svihla via
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<p><span>I think the dissolved entity
may be irrelevant. The inventor
never assigned his rights in the
invention to the dissolved
company, so he still owns his
right in the invention and can
assign it to the new company.</span><span></span></p>
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<p><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rsvihla@nsiplaw.com</a>>; Charlene L.
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Right.</span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Need to consult
applicable state law, including
corporate law, and consult counsel
in that state.</span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">The dissolved
corporation would likely need to
be reinstated first before it
would have the capacity to enter
into any corporate act, contract,
etc. But again, consult counsel
in the relevant state.</span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Is there any
agreement or obligation on the
part of the inventor to assign to
the dissolved entity?</span><span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span></span></p>
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Drive, Suite 203</span><span></span></p>
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<p><span>Who is going to sign
on behalf of the dissolved
company?</span><span></span></p>
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<p><span>We are currently
handling a matter
involving a patent
application that was
originally filed under a
company that has since
been dissolved. However,
prior to the dissolution,
the inventor did not
execute the assignment of
rights to the original
company.</span><span></span></p>
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<p><span>To ensure proper
chain of title, we would
like to confirm the
appropriate course of
action. Specifically,
should the inventor now
execute the assignment to
the dissolved entity,
followed by a subsequent
assignment from the
dissolved entity to the
current holding company?
Or would it be more
appropriate for the
inventor to assign the
rights directly to the
holding company?</span><span></span></p>
<p><span> </span><span></span></p>
<p><span>We want to ensure
that the assignment record
is clear and compliant
with USPTO requirements.
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