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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Thank you, Randall. I think calling OPLA is a good suggestion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">David, I see your point about who the PTO will take instructions from, but it was my understanding \u2013 as Randall notes \u2013 that you can\u2019t update Applicant by corrected ADS after the patent issues.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">We did record the assignment before filing the POA, and even submitted the POA with the 3.73 statement and a copy of the Assignment Notice of Recordation to prove the change in ownership.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I\u2019m stuck: they won\u2019t accept me as attorney unless I have POA from the applicant
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> I don\u2019t represent the original applicant and they won\u2019t accept POA from the owner because the owner isn\u2019t the applicant
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> can\u2019t change applicant after issuance
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> can\u2019t get POA from applicant
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> won\u2019t accept POA I have.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I don\u2019t know why they make it so hard. It seems silly that they would still accept a POA from a named applicant, even though that applicant no longer owns the patent.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">There should be one master form (or document they\u2019d accept) that says, \u201cI\u2019m the new owner of the patent/patent application. Here\u2019s the reel/frame of the recorded assignment. I am now the applicant/patentee
(I understand no change will be made to the issued patent without certificate of correction). I appoint this attorney, please send them documents and accept documents filed by them on my behalf.\u201d
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Rant over, I\u2019ll post an update if I find out more from OPLA. I hope everyone has a nice weekend!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Katherine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Dr. Katherine Koenig<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Registered Patent Attorney<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Koenig IP Works, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">2208 Mariner Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Corbel",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><a href="mailto:katherine@koenigipworks.com">katherine@koenigipworks.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Targeted Intellectual Property Strategy</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Randall Svihla <rsvihla@nsiplaw.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 26, 2025 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com>; Katherine Koenig <katherine@koenigipworks.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com>; Katherine Koenig <katherine@koenigipworks.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Patentpractice] POA and correspondence/maintenance fee address change after issuance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi, Katherine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">You can't change the applicant after the patent has issued. Changing the applicant under 37 CFR 1.46(c)(2) requires you to file a new Application Data Sheet listing the new applicant, but you
can't file a new ADS after the Issue Fee has been paid pursuant to 37 CFR 1.46(c)(1), which states as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(c)
<i>Correcting and updating an application data sheet.<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1) Information in a previously submitted application data sheet, inventor\u2019s oath or declaration under § 1.63, § 1.64 or § 1.67, or otherwise of record,
may be corrected or updated <u>until payment of the issue fee</u> by a new application data sheet providing corrected or updated information, except that inventorship changes must comply with the requirements of § 1.48, foreign priority and domestic benefit
information changes must comply with §§1.55 and 1.78, and correspondence address changes are governed by § 1.33(a).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Call the Office of Patent Legal Administration at 571-272-7701 and ask them what to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Randall S. Svihla<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">NSIP Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Washington, D.C.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Boundy via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 26, 2025 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Katherine Koenig <<a href="mailto:katherine@koenigipworks.com">katherine@koenigipworks.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>>; For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] POA and correspondence/maintenance fee address change after issuance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Did you record the inventor -> company assignment first?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Once you've done that, THEN you need --<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- change of applicant (that's the thing that's missing from your list above)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- the other things in your list (you probably don't need "change of correspondence address" -- presumably the Power of Attorney is in favor of a customer number and the CN has a correspondence address)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Remember what "applicant" is under post-AIA law -- the one and only person that the PTO is to take orders from. The PTO's CYA has to be "we don't pay no attention to nobody else, just 'applicant.'". If you didn't change "applicant" then
a Power of Attorney from the company looks like instructions from the far side of the moon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know the patent is issued, so "applicant" ceases to have any meaning. The party that matters is "assignee." But you're dealing with clerks. Just play the game under the clerks' rules. This is a case to just let the law go -- the stupidity
has a zero-down-side work around.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 11:50\u202fAM David Boundy <<a href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com">DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Did you record the inventor -> company assignment first?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Once you've done that, THEN you need --<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- change of applicant (that's the thing that's missing from your list above)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- the other things in your list (you probably don't need "change of correspondence address" -- presumably the Power of Attorney is in favor of a customer number and the CN has a correspondence address)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Remember what "applicant" is under post-AIA law -- the one and only person that the PTO is to take orders from. The PTO's CYA has to be "we don't pay no attention to nobody else, just 'applicant.'". If you didn't change "applicant" then
a Power of Attorney from the company looks like instructions from the far side of the moon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 11:35\u202fAM Katherine Koenig via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Happy Friday everyone,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I\u2019m hoping someone can give me a checklist of exactly which documents I need to file to have my customer number associated with an issued patent that my client has acquired (after
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Patent issued in name of individual
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> individual assigned to my client, \u201cCompany\u201d (after issuance)
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> client asked me handle the case moving forward. Receiving maintenance fee correspondence is really all I need to accomplish, but I would also like to be listed as the attorney of record. I want to be able to search
for this patent in my Patent Center workbench and have it appear, instead of requiring me to do a general search in Patent Center.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Below is the list of documents I filed, but they were rejected because the person attempting to chance the POA isn\u2019t the applicant of record.
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POA (PTO/AIA81A) signed by Company<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
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Change of Correspondence Address (Patent) (PTO/AIA/123) (signed by me as representative)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">AAU sent me to the Maintenance Fee Branch, which sent me back to AAU. AAU first said I needed a Corrected ADS (wrong, patent had already issued) and then said I needed a certificate
of correction (wrong, I don\u2019t need to correct anything on the patent). Maintenance Fee Branch told me I need POA from the applicant (patentee) to change correspondence/maintenance fee addresses.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Was my mistake filing the POA and 3.73? Should I have just filed the AIA/47 and AIA/123? Timothy (and others), thank you for your advice about simply refiling the same documents
I\u2019d already filed (and maybe that\u2019s what I\u2019ll end up doing). I\u2019d like to avoid this issue in the future by filing exactly what will be accepted so my clients don\u2019t think I need early retirement
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