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<p>Well, what he said.</p>
<p>I cannot count how many times I had some front-line person at the
USPTO get the wrong answer on something, and I had no choice but
to escalate to some higher level within the USPTO to get somebody
to order the front-line person to correct their mistake.</p>
<p>It is so sad that what makes sense is to spend the time and
energy to construct an extra piece of paper and put it into the
record, merely to build a record so that the front-line person who
got the wrong answer will eventually be ordered to correct their
mistake, and maybe the extra piece of paper will reduce how long
it takes to get a higher-level person to realize the front-line
person was wrong.</p>
<p>So yes, what he said.</p>
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<div>Late to this discussion, but in addition to filing all
those documents, in my cover letter I would quote the
relevant reg(s) and explain which of the attached documents
fulfills which requirement of which reg. At least that way,
if you have to go higher up within the PTO or to court, the
next person up the chain can see how the dolt who's refusing
the POA is flouting the regs.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Timothy (and
others). I would re-file the documents, although I\u2019m
not sure about either the Copy of the Assignment
Notice of Recordation because the 3.73(c) statement
includes the reel and frame number (at least the
USPTO form does) or the Change of Correspondence
Address because the change of address is included on
the power of attorney (at least the USPTO forms
does). We have successfully had a new power of
attorney accepted for many patents without
submitting either of these two documents. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Occasionally, we\u2019ll have to do
this for a patent portfolio. Our success rate is
around 60%\u201370%. We have learned over the years to
just re-file the documents if they aren\u2019t accepted
the first time. Rarely, we\u2019ll have to re-file a
second time. To be clear, if we file the same forms
in 10 patents at the same time, then we expect that
the USPTO will accept the new power of attorney in
about 6 or 7 of the patents and will reject the same
forms in 3 or 4 of the other patents.
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