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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes. Thanks for the reminder!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Doreen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Doreen Y. Trujillo</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Ackermann via Patentpractice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 30, 2025 12:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tim Ackermann <tim@ackermannlaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] Fw: Patent Center change - another way to publicly access file history<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Isn't Global Dossier also still available for anyone to use?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/">https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">There is another way to publicly access the file wrapper of published applications. It is more awkward to use than patent center, at least with the current interface for my purposes, but
it doesn't require login. It seems to work better with some browsers than others, but I haven't worked with it much yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">You might consider sharing the links with your foreign associates, most of them want to be able to see files electronically too. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> david--- via Patentpractice <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:david@hricik.com" target="_blank">david@hricik.com</a> <<a href="mailto:david@hricik.com" target="_blank">david@hricik.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> Tuesday, September 30, 2025 at 08:22:38 AM MDT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> Re: [Patentpractice] Patent Center change<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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can search prior art,and I assume those had been statutorily required. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Don\u2019t get me started on the rest. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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at what the USPTO has to say about using PatentCenter, and found that the <a href="https://gcfagjf.r.af.d.sendibt2.com/tr/cl/RG5kATAGQJxrnW1-ouDyea13AEap9uuOfvVtEDPXIW_LiBnKHPMM2NdkmX27ZnZ_ussJJRU1GuLbpkixX7BPr3y3WY97h99caerCZDSud_BSdG1DZ-TGH0dx2PiblyRCy4fLwPUw-BESQVHlQiYKU7JTq79l9OYRkN7sMCEuEWuXdFl5ykQIolp_-mnR_MUk6MB5VXHbPwe0zTNds29iEocTiS0yfpqWuOs64m4SuCPSy8XU89MhcT0QxSTIjM4Pmw8BFYbfTkXxx5_VNEJiKwac9QaOMU2ZB0FjURncuAOPH6RaRKwLLOGsLd0SLltSzbeTkMGGxuyOLBoA-w" target="_blank">
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paper form</a> for verifying one's ID with the PTO requires that one be a licensed practitioner, or a limited recognition practitioner, or a pro se inventor. If you're not one of those, you're not entitled to look at the USPTO records. Not only is that unbelievably
stupid policy, but I'm certain that that position violates some federal statute, and even if allowed by statute, did not go through notice-and-comment rulemaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">You could sue the PTO, but I suggest a cheaper course of action: think up a dumb idea that may be (but more likely is not) patentable, write a one-page description
of that idea that includes at least one patent-type claim on the idea, and file the one-pager as a provisional patent application, listing yourself as inventor. That will make you a pro se inventor, which will allow you to register as a PatentCenter user under
the PTO's current (indefensible) rules. I suggest filing a provisional because (a) it's a low fee compared to a non-provision and (b) with a provisional, there's no requirement for an oath/declaration averring that you consider yourself to be the original
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Finally, I'm thinking it must be really nice to be someone like Kathi Vidal, on whose watch they decided to destroy private and public PAIR. You FUBAR the agency
you're the head of and the people who need that agency, then leave for a nice private-sector gig without any repercussions for the mess you created. Nice work if you can get it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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permission to access it. For patent litigators or a lot of other people, that\u2019s not a good development. Anyone know why the change?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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