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    <p>Thank you Kevin this is very helpful.</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/21/2025 1:27 PM, Kevin Rieffel
      via Patentpractice wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Based on the USPTO Hour <a
href="https://www.uspto.gov/about-us/events/uspto-hour-understanding-patent-examiners-role-ip-community"
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        understanding is that:the second interview needs SPE approval.<br>
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        I believe it was Deputy Commissioner for Patents Lorengo who
        offered the advice for practitioners: "make sure that any
        interview comes with a really specific agenda and give it to the
        examiner before the interview <b><u>would be scheduled</u></b>,
        making things efficient to prepare effectively."<br>
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        <div>-Kevin Rieffel</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at
          8:38\u202fAM Roger Browdy via Patentpractice &lt;<a
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          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I was told by an examiner
                    that he had received that notice,  but that it was a
                    mixed message because they are not allotted any
                    additional time for such interviews.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Roger L. Browdy</span></b></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Partner </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>FisherBroyles, LLP</span></b></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>direct: +1 202-277-5198</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patentpractice
                      &lt;<a
href="mailto:patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Benjamin Keim via
                      Patentpractice<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 20, 2025 8:12 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not
                      for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com"
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                      <b>Cc:</b> Benjamin Keim &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:ben@newportip.com" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ben@newportip.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> [External Sender][Patentpractice]
                      USPTO second interview policy</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I just heard from a SPE that:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Acting Commissioner Valencia
                    Martin Wallace sent out instructions today to the
                    examiners that they are required to conduct
                    interviews when they are requested by the applicant
                    in order to further prosecution. Hopefully, you and
                    all other practitioners don't experience a
                    detrimental impact.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">-Ben</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b></p>
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