<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr">They are still working on it. Some time in April they said yes we made a mistake we'll redo the WOSA, but then they didn't issue it until October, and they still didn't search the second invention. I advised the client to drop it and file Art 34 amendments and a demand, but the client called the PCT help desk and apparently they promised to redo the search report a third time. Some may find it hard to believe but many clients actually take these patents seriously! <div><br></div><div>The 30 mo. date is in March, so the IPRP will probably issue after the 30 mo. date. 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<p>Yeah. So there's no real question the USPTO failed to do what
you paid the USPTO to do.</p>
<p>So next steps. Did you already call the PCT Help Desk? If so,
what happened next?<br>
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<div>On 11/22/2023 10:44 AM, Andrew Berks
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes the transaction showed up Financial Manager and
looked normal there with the correct application no. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at
10:30 AM Carl Oppedahl <<a href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com" target="_blank">carl@oppedahl.com</a>>
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<div> On 11/22/2023 9:00 AM, Andrew Berks via Pct wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I had a problem earlier this year in
another case filed at the RO/IB and electing the
ISA/US. First of all, I frequently recommend the
ISA/US with small entity clients because the
search fee is lower with small entity prices. The
problem was that the ISA/US made a unity of invention
objection and issued an invitation to pay an
additional search fee. The client was OK with this,
but this case did not appear on Patent
Center/EFSweb/Private PAIR - because it was filed at
RO/IB. We had to pay the fee with a credit card form
that was faxed, which is really ridiculous. Putting
full credit card info on a paper and faxing it is not
secure. The fee payment form was clearly marked with
what the money was for - the additional search fees.
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<div>But the people who do the searching didn't get
the message that the additional fees were paid and
issued the WOSA without searching the second
invention. Bottom line - this bad WOSA was issued in
March 2023 and as of today (Nov. 21, 2023) this
situation is still not resolved. <br>
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