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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">One other for you to consider.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I\u2019m fairly certain he was in-house doing pharma patent work before joining his current firm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Pct <pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of William Ahmed via Pct <pct@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 1:09\u202fpm<br>
<b>To: </b>for Users of the Patent Cooperation Treaty <pct@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>William Ahmed <ahmed.william@ymail.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Pct] sharing the knowledge --> referrals for Small EP firm specialising in pharma<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Hello Again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">At least one list-member asked me to share the recommendations I have received.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">So in NO particular order [I am only the copy-and-paste conduit], please see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">At FIRST blush, they all look excellent - I have not vetted anything beyond "first blush," but it looks like my currently challenge is now deciding BETWEEN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">multiple good options.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">This is why I emailed this list in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">FINAL NOTE - I am not 100% at cut-and-paste - if I left out any recommendation, it is only due to a clerical oversight. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Cheers (and THANK you to those who took the time to respond)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">RECOMMENDATIONS (in NO particular order!! I promise) --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">(A) </span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5A5C61">Robert Watson
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many years ago, hence being a member of this listserv.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">highly recommend Tom Wittop Koning, Biopatents </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="mailto:tom@biopatents.nl" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">tom@biopatents.nl</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">(C) Someone from England wrote <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">(D) Another user wrote --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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a dozen or so EP Patent attorneys, and it\u2019s likely one or more has pharma expertise. You can contact Jesper Wenzel, <a href="mailto:jw@buddeschou.dk" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">jw@buddeschou.dk</span></a>. He\u2019s in the management of the firm.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I practice in the computer and electrical arts, not pharma, but I know <a href="https://hoiberg.com/expert/jvn/" target="_blank" title="Jens Viktor Nørgaard"><span style="color:#0563C1">Jens Viktor Nørgaard</span></a> at <a href="https://hoiberg.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">HØIBERG</span></a> in
Denmark. I use other patent attorneys at HØIBERG, and I have been very happy with their work. The firm may be bigger than you are looking for, but they do good work and are well regarded. Everyone that I have interacted with there is knowledgeable, down to
earth, and approachable. If Jens is not a good match for you, perhaps he can recommend someone else at the firm or at another firm. Good luck.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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