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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/25/2024 12:09 PM, Catherine Van
      Houten via Patentcenter wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">When we have to pay an odd fee amount that
          cannot be calculated in Patent Center, we write a letter
          itemizing the fees, and authorize the deposit account for that
          exact amount.
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    Thank you for posting.  Some filers might not have a Deposit Account
    in which case this approach does not work.  I suppose the filer
    could fax in a Form 2038.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Would this method work to pay PCT filing
          fees for an application filed in RO/US via Patent Center?<o:p></o:p></p>
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    Yes, it should work.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Cathy<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#8E515A;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Catherine
              A. Van Houten</span></b><span
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            Manager</span><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#797979;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">McNeill
            Baur PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><u><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#797979;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Mailing
                  address for physical documents<o:p></o:p></span></u></i></b></p>
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                Cambridge Park Dr., Ste 301, Cambridge, MA 02140</span></i></b><b><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Pct
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
            </b>David Boundy via Pct<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:29 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> users of Patentcenter
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com"><patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com></a>; for users of the
            Patent Cooperation Treaty <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com"><pct@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> David Boundy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com"><DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [Pct] Another big-as-a-barn
            can't-get-an-application filed bug in Patent Center?<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">A couple weeks ago when nothing was
              working, using Patent Center, I tried to file a PCT
              application with an ePCT zip file.   Nothing was working
              (I think that was the day Patent Center just crashed,
              seconds after I submitted this very application), so i
              didn't pay the fees.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The application papers are in the
              Patent Center file wrapper, but the "Application
              Information" page is not populated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I need to pay the fees.   I check all
              the boxes and -- the fee for "International Filing Fee
              (first 30 sheets) with ePCT zip file" isn't in the
              selectable lsit.  The only fee is " INTERNATIONAL FILING
              FEE (FIRST 30 PAGES - FILED ELECTRONICALLY WITHOUT EPCT OR
              PCT-EASY .ZIP FILE)" (which isn't me), and the listed fee
              is pretty clearly wrong, based on my RO101 from ePCT.  I
              have goofed around a bit to try to get the right fee
              calculation, no can do.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I have about 10 more days before the
              fees must be paid.  Should I just wait until the
              application gets to WIPO, and then pay ePCT?   Or send a
              paper check?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I have not called EBC.   I don't need
              them to tell me that Patent Center is misbehaving and that
              they can't do anything about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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