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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2024 2:13 PM, Andrew Berks via
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<div>I just looked at the slides Carl Oppedahl sent out
regarding which Receiving Office to pick (talk given on Nov.
14).</div>
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<div>A factor that Carl didn't mention is that cases filed at
RO/IB do not appear in Patent Center, so if you want to file a
Demand (Art. 34 amendments), which are filed with the
<span class="gmail-b-view-panel__field-value"><span
class="gmail-answer" title="">International Preliminary
Examining Authority</span></span>, it becomes difficult
assuming you want to file the Demand at IPEA/US. I had a big
problem a few years ago filing a Demand with a case filed at
RO/IB where I used ISA/US, so now I generally file at RO/US,
since most of my cases use the ISA/US and IPEA/US. </div>
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<div>I am fond of filing Demands. My research on this shows
there is a good chance that claims found not novel or
inventive can be found novel and inventive after filing a
Demand with arguments and claim amendments. <br>
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<div>This is really a Patent Center issue. Any case where
IPEA/US is possible should be accessible in Patent Center, but
it appears to me that only PCT cases filed at RO/US are
accessible in Patent Center. <br>
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<p>When you say "accessible to me in Patent Center" I guess you mean
"I possess a Confirmation Number that will permit me to e-file a
document in Patent Center".</p>
<p>What you are getting at, I guess, if that if you were to select
RO/US as your RO, and if you were to file a PCT application in
RO/US, one of the things that you get is the confirmation number.
Which means you can e-file follow-on documents.</p>
<p>And what you are also getting at, I guess, is that if you you
were to select RO/IB as your RO, and if you were to file a PCT
application in RO/IB, then this does not give you a USPTO
confirmation number for that PCT application number.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that if you want a confirmation number for any PCT
application (for example so that you can file a Demand or some
follow-on document at ISA/US), all you need to do is pick up the
phone and call the EBC. They will give you the confirmation
number.</p>
<p>Keep in mind as well that you can simply file your Demand (or
your follow-on document to the ISA/US) by faxing it to the Central
Fax Number. Or you can mail it. Or you can hand-carry it.<br>
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<p>Most ISAs and IPEAs have chosen to set it up with ePCT so that
anybody anywhere in the world who wants to send a document to them
can do it through ePCT. See for example slide 12 in my webinar of
June 8, 2023 (
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/please-sign-up-for-fifteen-webinars-about-epct/">https://blog.oppedahl.com/please-sign-up-for-fifteen-webinars-about-epct/</a>
). You can view that recorded webinar now if you wish. It
explains that of the eight ISAs that RO/US has certified, the
laggards are ISA/IL, ISA/JP, and ISA/US. The trendy, modern, and
up-to-date ISAs are AU, EP, KR, RU and SG. It is the same for
IPEAs -- the laggards are IL, JP, and US. The trendy, modern and
up-to-date ones are AU, EP, KR, RU and SG. Quoting from slide
12:<br>
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width="470" height="484"></p>
<p>Yes clearly it would be very applicant-friendly if ISA/US and
IPEA/US were to carry out the one-time tasks to arrange to receive
communications from ePCT.</p>
<p>Until the USPTO does the right thing on this, yes, pick up the
phone and call the EBC and they will give you the confirmation
number for any PCT application number and you will be able to file
follow-on documents.</p>
<p>I suppose the other thing you may be getting at is that you wish
to inspect the contents of your PCT application file at the
USPTO. And if you did not select RO/US for the filing of that PCT
application, you might not be sure how to do this. In such a
case, see <a
href="https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/assoc_pct_with_cust_number.pdf"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/assoc_pct_with_cust_number.pdf</a>
and <a
href="http://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cust_num_pct.doc"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cust_num_pct.doc</a>
. This explains how to associate a PCT application that you filed
in an RO that is not RO/US with a USPTO customer number.</p>
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