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<p>Thank you Rick for posting. Yes, folks, Rick is exactly right
about this. See the webinar that I presented ten days ago ( <a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/pct-webinars/"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blog.oppedahl.com/pct-webinars/</a>
) where I discussed Rick's point in some detail. Part of what
Rick is getting at is highlighted by PCT Declaration Number 2,
discussed at slides 23-38 (available free of charge at that
page). A raw recording of the webinar is available free of charge
(thanks to WIPO) at that web page.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/19/2024 10:52 PM, Rick Neifeld
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<div dir="ltr">"put off the fight to get the fifth until it's a
nonprovisional and/or PCT." Good luck proving
the corporate applicant on the PCT is entitled the Paris
priority date, lacking an assignment executed BEFORE the PCT
filing date. Strongly suggest you read <strong><a
href="https://www.neifeld.com/pubs/Avoiding%20Failed%20Patent%20Application%20Filings,%202023%20Paper.pdf"
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Filings, 2023 Paper, Submitted for the NAPP annual meeting
July 19, 2023</a>" Rick Neifeld, July 19, 2023., section </strong>VI.D.
The All Applicants Rule. </div>
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<p>Keep in mind you need to record within three months.
See <a
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. So I would not foot-drag the recordation, especially
given that you don't have to pay any government fee to
accomplish the recordation. <br>
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<p>In the old days when we had to pay a government fee to
record patent assignments, I know that many of us would
play a game of chicken, aging the first four
assignments, hoping against all hope that the fifth
inventor would cough up a signature within three months
of the earliest execution by the four earlier signers.
All to scrimp and save to avoid paying an extra $25.
But that fee is gone so that eliminates any good reason
to foot-drag the recordations.</p>
<p>I figure the longer one waits to extract a signature
from an inventor, the greater the period of exposure to
problems like the inventor getting run over by a truck
or worse.</p>
<p>Sometimes I have run into situations where the
non-provisional is admittedly non-identical to the
provisional, and I realize that to cover the situation
fully I would need two assignments -- one for the
provisional and a second for the non-provisional. And
yes you might say "assume for sake of discussion that I
do manage to extract a signature from the inventor for
the non-provisional, then surely that means I can
forgive myself for having failed to get that inventor to
sign the earlier assignment for the provisional."</p>
<p>Except at least in my own practice, every single time
that I have ever played this game (relying on a
signature for the non-provisional as the excuse for
ducking the pursuit of the signature for the
provisional), I have gotten burned. Every single time!
The ways that I have gotten burned when I play this game
have fallen into several categories:</p>
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<li>I run afoul of Article 4 of Paris, risking a failure
to comply with SAOSIT.</li>
<li>The inventor starts smelling blood in the water,
because maybe the invention must be really valuable
given the second patent filing, and so the inventor
starts holding the signature ransom.</li>
<li>The inventor gets run over by a truck.</li>
<li>The inventor has a last day of work and is less
cooperative than before.</li>
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<div>On 12/19/2024 12:04 PM, David Boundy via
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<div>I am nine months into my provisional year. I
have assignment from four of five inventors. The
fifth? Not hostile, but he's just a contractor, no
real loyalty to the client. Ignores emails
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<div>If I just record the assignment of four
inventors, and put off the fight to get the fifth
until it's a nonprovisional and/or PCT, I guess I'm
running a risk that he won't sign that either. But
is there any greater consequence to lacking the
signature if I wait? I am just out of vinegar to
fight with this guy, and I want to wait to have the
fight until its a nonprovisional.<br>
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