<div dir="ltr">Before they can publish it, they have to acknowledge that they received it, which currently seems to be taking an absurdly long time for PCT national entries. One case that was entered 08 February 2024 (and granted a petition to make special based on age 03 June 2024) is still "Undergoing Preexam Processing".<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px">-Jeff </span><div><br style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px"><span style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px">Jeffrey E. Semprebon</span><br style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px"><font face="Roboto, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="letter-spacing:0.1px">Registered Patent Agent (mechanical) looking for remote work</span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:jesemprebon@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesemprebon@gmail.com</a><br style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px"><span style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px">72 Myrtle Street</span><br style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px"><span style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.1px">Claremont, New Hampshire 03743</span><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 2:46\u202fPM Scott Nielson via Pct <<a href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com">pct@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-886773662549546858">
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37 CFR 1.215:</div>
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(a) The publication of an application under <span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation">
<b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e303054.html%23%23d0e303063" id="m_8705043335308795352OWAbfa0be6c-9a87-4707-0206-3e311ee07847" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">35 U.S.C. 122(b)</a></b></span> shall include a patent application publication.
The date of publication shall be indicated on the patent application publication. The patent application publication will be based upon the specification and drawings deposited on the filing date of the application, as well as the application data sheet and/or
the inventor's oath or declaration. The patent application publication may also be based upon amendments to the specification (other than the abstract or the claims) that are reflected in a substitute specification under
<span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation"><b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e323278.html%23%23d0e323290" id="m_8705043335308795352OWA46a41c8d-d2d8-d0b5-277d-5366d2b448c1" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">§ 1.125(b)</a></b></span>,
amendments to the abstract under <span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation">
<b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e323020.html%23%23d0e323037" id="m_8705043335308795352OWA28ef412c-4221-092a-e890-6498c8e37dcb" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">§ 1.121(b)</a></b></span>, amendments to the claims that are reflected
in a complete claim listing under <span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation">
<b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e323020.html%23%23d0e323123" id="m_8705043335308795352OWA93a9aaca-9d9b-31f4-b855-74dd9964ef42" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">§ 1.121(c)</a></b></span>, and amendments to the drawings under
<span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation"><b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e323020.html%23%23d0e323179" id="m_8705043335308795352OWA8757d0fd-9903-bc9c-45ac-da1bb972ee86" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">§ 1.121(d)</a></b></span>,
provided that such substitute specification or <b><i>amendment is submitted in sufficient time to be entered into the Office file wrapper of the application before technical preparations for publication of the application have begun. Technical preparations
for publication of an application generally begin four months prior to the projected date of publication.</i></b> The patent application publication of an application that has entered the national stage under
<span style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" role="presentation"><b><a href="https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e307164.html" id="m_8705043335308795352OWAc270f632-705c-bff1-7492-5558bba01855" style="color:rgb(0,140,255)" target="_blank">35 U.S.C. 371</a></b></span>
may also include amendments made during the international stage. <i>See</i> paragraph
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of this section for publication of an application based upon a copy of the application submitted via the USPTO patent electronic filing system.<br>
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Four months to prepare the application for publication is a bit ridiculous. I've seen preliminary amendments filed a month before publication make it in but you cannot count on it. I think a preliminary amendment filed within a week of filing the national phase
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If its not included, you can file a request to have it republished (USPTO fee is about $500).</div>
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<div id="m_8705043335308795352divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Pct <<a href="mailto:pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">pct-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on behalf of William Ahmed via Pct <<a href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">pct@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2025 12:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for Users of the Patent Cooperation Treaty <<a href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">pct@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> William Ahmed <<a href="mailto:ahmed.william@ymail.com" target="_blank">ahmed.william@ymail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pct] pre-grant protection under 35 U.S.C. § 154(d) -- 371 national phase in USA</font>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a PCT with a national-phase deadline [30 month] this Friday.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">My client is concerned about <span>pre-grant protection under 35 U.S.C. § 154(d) .</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>If I enter the national stage in the United States THIS WEEK, and then I file a preliminary amendment NEXT WEEK (i.e. after the 30 month deadline), which version of the claims will the USPTO publish.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Does anyone have an idea?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks,</div>
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