<div dir="ltr"><div>I think Ryan's question is --</div><div><br></div><div> -- if I file these as one combined application, am I creating any new problems that wouldn't exist if I filed two separate PCT applications?</div><div><br></div><div>I think the answer is no.</div><div><br></div><div>But as Rick and Roger note, there are a number of underlying gotcha's out there that you have to look at. Be sure to analyze each chain (priority, ownership, foreign filing license, etc.) separately and fully.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 1:17\u202fPM Roger Browdy via Pct <<a href="mailto:pct@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">pct@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not to mention the possible problem of an Indian inventor first filing A2 outside of India without a foreign filing license or its equivalent in India.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pct] Combine two priority filings from different countries and applicants into one PCT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"If there was no assignment from A1 to A2, what would be different regarding the PCT filing?" - If no assignment before filing of the PCT, then the PCT would have failed to comply with the successor in title provisions of Paris article
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<p class="MsoNormal">"They have a corporate assignment from A1 to A2 for the India application." - Is there an unbroken chain of title under the applicable choice of laws provision? Does Indian law vest ownership in a corporate entity disrespecting natural
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<p class="MsoNormal">Applicant A1 files a priority founding application in India.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Applicant A2 files a priority founding application in US on the same day.
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<p class="MsoNormal">They have different inventors but related subject matter.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They want to combine specs into a single PCT filed by Applicant A2. They have a corporate assignment from A1 to A2 for the India application.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know of anything I should to now to avoid trouble at PCT and/or national stage?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there was no assignment from A1 to A2, what would be different regarding the PCT filing?<u></u><u></u></p>
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