[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...

Mon Dec 4 12:28:42 EST 2023

You might try downloading the Status Page (only vs Documents) as a PDF
rather than trying to screen-cap it.
Tim Ackermann
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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 11:25 AM Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> I always just screenshot the TESS record and copy it into the response.  I
> think I might try Fireshotting the TSDR page with all the tabs opened when
> I need to do this the next time.  That should have all the information.
>
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> C. Dale Quisenberry
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> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
> of Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 4 December 2023 at 11:20 am
> *To: *For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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> *Cc: *Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> I have always attached both the certificate and status from TSDR.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2023 12:10 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> I seem to recall that they  won’t look at them unless you attach them,
>  but  nb the reg.  certificate  is not as good as TESS bc it doesn’t show
> whether it’s live or dead.
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> Sigh
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 4, 2023, at 12:05 PM, Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, buttheoretically, doesn’t the mere mention of
> registration numbers make those registrations a matter of record?  And we
> all just attached the registration certificates and/or TESS status as a
> convenience for the EA?
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> Thanks,
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> Mark
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> Of *Clarkin, Cheryl via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2023 11:24 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> I need to file a response today with third-party registrations.  If the
> TESS screen is no longer available, what do I submit?  TSDR screen for each
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 3:29 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> For the USPTO, this will also make the TTAB's job more difficult.  One
> used to be able to introduce pleaded and third party registrations into
> evidence by attaching the easy-to-read TESS screen to a pleading or notice
> of reliance.  The TSDR screen is much more complicated and much more
> difficult to read.
>
>
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> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:03 PM Ignacio, Vanessa A. via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
> The USPTO should be somewhat ashamed of itself for solely redesigning this
> system for itself, i.e. to suit its examiners. Sure, they have their jobs
> to do. But rolling out a new search system that is less agile in some
> respects, that will take me and my team MORE TIME to compile the same
> information as before is unconscionable. Examiners do not need to be
> concerned with billing their time and devising fee structures that provide
> value to clients while still allow some breathing room to make doing this
> work worthwhile for those of us in private practice. With all the pressure
> to be “more efficient” in the IP space, removing the useful TESS summary
> screen is an unwelcome move, one that is tone deaf to the needs of the
> USPTO’s paying customers.
>
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>
> *Vanessa A. Ignacio*********
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Robert Reynolds via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 2:50 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>; Julia Anne Matheson <
> jmatheson at potomaclaw.com>
> *Cc:* Robert Reynolds <rreynolds at kandrip.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> The good news is that the USPTO is aware of how valuable the TESS summary
> screens were. I saw this brought up in each of the USPTO-led training
> sessions I attended, and the speakers acknowledged the same. I’m hopeful
> that it returns.
>
>
>
> -Bob
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>
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 1:43 PM
> *To:* Julia Anne Matheson <jmatheson at potomaclaw.com>
> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>; For trademark practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> Agreed! All that information, including first use dates, was so helpful!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:51 PM Julia Anne Matheson <
> jmatheson at potomaclaw.com> wrote:
>
> All –
>
>
>
> My biggest WHINE to the PTO is that the single page that we used to get in
> TESS that shows basis, app no, reg. no, full goods/services, status, etc.
> is not gone – forcing you to go into TARR (which is a much less agile
> system) and into each category.  It is making what used to be a very simple
> search process *so much more time intensive* and frustrating.
>
>
>
> Please, PTO lurkers, can you bring BACK the overview search page?  To not
> be able to see this information at a glance is incredibly frustrating.
>
>
>
> Julia
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>
>
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 6:39 PM
> *To:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>; For trademark practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
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> Thanks Richard
>
>
>
>  But at the bottom of the results page, I get weird marks like "Brappers"
> and "Heimlich Helper", because they are picking up corporate names as well.
>
>
>
> This doesn't matter too much here, as there so few results, but I can
> imagine a case where the mark is weak and the Search All will get you MANY
> results.  If anyone at the USPTO is monitoring this,  it would be great if
> they could post on their help page an answer to this. Or, does the PTO have
> a place where one can send  questions that can then be added to the Help
> page
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here is the glitch.
>
>
>
> If you search “big john” under *Wordmark* search you get 8,929 hits.
>
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> If you search “big john” under *Search by all* then you get 21 hits.
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> *From: *carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM
> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> Thanks Richard
>
>
>
> You are in basic search right?
>
>
>
> And what is the search term you use so that you ONLY get BIG JOHN marks
> instead of marks containing both those names?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
> Susan Crane found the glitch.
>
>
>
> You must *not* limit the search to “Wordmark”.   You can only search in
> “Search All”.    Try it.   You get vastly different results.
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> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
> of "Renee.Kraft via E-trademarks" <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:37 PM
> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *"Renee.Kraft" <Renee.Kraft at target.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> I also get 95 results with “big AND john” so at least there’s consistency!
>
>
>
> Maybe try closing out of the current search session and starting a new
> one. You may have accidentally clicked something along the way that’s
> causing the issue. I sound like tech support….have you tried rebooting? J
>
>
>
> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Crane, Susan via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:30 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Crane, Susan <susan.crane at wyndham.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> Odd, when I search “big john” in quotes, I get 95 results for marks
> consisting of Big John
>
>
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Richard Morris via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:24 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. I can search for
> “BIGJOHN” for example. But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get
> hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG. I
> only want to retrieve
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>
>
> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark.
>
>
>
> I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG JOHN”
> as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or
> just the term BIG.
>
>
>
> I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words.
>
>
>
> Please help.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
> of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM
> *To: *"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
> *Subject: *[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>
>
>
> to post a big WHINE about the new search function.
>
>
>
> I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers, to
> name a couple of whines.
>
>
>
> Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS
>
>
>
> There are so many more whines.
>
>
>
> PTO—are you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.
>
>
>
> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac Law
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