[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...

Mon Dec 4 14:03:17 EST 2023

Fireshot is a system for grabbing screenshots.  It's fairly inexpensive,
and it's just a browser extension and includes the URL and all relevant
info (date/time).

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:00 PM Jaclyn Ionin via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> what is fireshotting? is that something that lets you screenshot multiple
> tabs at once?
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> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:25 PM Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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>> I always just screenshot the TESS record and copy it into the response.
>> I think I might try Fireshotting the TSDR page with all the tabs opened
>> when I need to do this the next time.  That should have all the information.
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>> C. Dale Quisenberry
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>> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
>> of Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Date: *Monday, 4 December 2023 at 11:20 am
>> *To: *For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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>> *Cc: *Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
>> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> I have always attached both the certificate and status from TSDR.
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2023 12:10 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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>> *Cc:* Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> I seem to recall that they  won’t look at them unless you attach them,
>>  but  nb the reg.  certificate  is not as good as TESS bc it doesn’t show
>> whether it’s live or dead.
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>> Sigh
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>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 12:05 PM, Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks <
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>> Correct me if I’m wrong, buttheoretically, doesn’t the mere mention of
>> registration numbers make those registrations a matter of record?  And we
>> all just attached the registration certificates and/or TESS status as a
>> convenience for the EA?
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Clarkin, Cheryl via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2023 11:24 AM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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>> *Cc:* Clarkin, Cheryl <CClarkin at apslaw.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> I need to file a response today with third-party registrations.  If the
>> TESS screen is no longer available, what do I submit?  TSDR screen for each
>> one?
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 3:29 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> For the USPTO, this will also make the TTAB's job more difficult.  One
>> used to be able to introduce pleaded and third party registrations into
>> evidence by attaching the easy-to-read TESS screen to a pleading or notice
>> of reliance.  The TSDR screen is much more complicated and much more
>> difficult to read.
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>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:03 PM Ignacio, Vanessa A. via E-trademarks <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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>> The USPTO should be somewhat ashamed of itself for solely redesigning
>> this system for itself, i.e. to suit its examiners. Sure, they have their
>> jobs to do. But rolling out a new search system that is less agile in some
>> respects, that will take me and my team MORE TIME to compile the same
>> information as before is unconscionable. Examiners do not need to be
>> concerned with billing their time and devising fee structures that provide
>> value to clients while still allow some breathing room to make doing this
>> work worthwhile for those of us in private practice. With all the pressure
>> to be “more efficient” in the IP space, removing the useful TESS summary
>> screen is an unwelcome move, one that is tone deaf to the needs of the
>> USPTO’s paying customers.
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Robert Reynolds via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 2:50 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>; Julia Anne Matheson <
>> jmatheson at potomaclaw.com>
>> *Cc:* Robert Reynolds <rreynolds at kandrip.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> The good news is that the USPTO is aware of how valuable the TESS summary
>> screens were. I saw this brought up in each of the USPTO-led training
>> sessions I attended, and the speakers acknowledged the same. I’m hopeful
>> that it returns.
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>> -Bob
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2023 1:43 PM
>> *To:* Julia Anne Matheson <jmatheson at potomaclaw.com>
>> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>; For trademark
>> practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> Agreed! All that information, including first use dates, was so helpful!
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>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:51 PM Julia Anne Matheson <
>> jmatheson at potomaclaw.com> wrote:
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>> All –
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>> My biggest WHINE to the PTO is that the single page that we used to get
>> in TESS that shows basis, app no, reg. no, full goods/services, status,
>> etc.  is not gone – forcing you to go into TARR (which is a much less agile
>> system) and into each category.  It is making what used to be a very simple
>> search process *so much more time intensive* and frustrating.
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>> Please, PTO lurkers, can you bring BACK the overview search page?  To not
>> be able to see this information at a glance is incredibly frustrating.
>>
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>> Julia
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 6:39 PM
>> *To:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
>> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>; For trademark
>> practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>
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>> Thanks Richard
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>>  But at the bottom of the results page, I get weird marks like "Brappers"
>> and "Heimlich Helper", because they are picking up corporate names as well.
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>> This doesn't matter too much here, as there so few results, but I can
>> imagine a case where the mark is weak and the Search All will get you MANY
>> results.  If anyone at the USPTO is monitoring this,  it would be great if
>> they could post on their help page an answer to this. Or, does the PTO have
>> a place where one can send  questions that can then be added to the Help
>> page
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>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Here is the glitch.
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>> If you search “big john” under *Wordmark* search you get 8,929 hits.
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>> If you search “big john” under *Search by all* then you get 21 hits.
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>> *From: *carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM
>> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc: *Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>
>>
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>> Thanks Richard
>>
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>>
>> You are in basic search right?
>>
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>> And what is the search term you use so that you ONLY get BIG JOHN marks
>> instead of marks containing both those names?
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>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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>> Susan Crane found the glitch.
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>> You must *not* limit the search to “Wordmark”.   You can only search in
>> “Search All”.    Try it.   You get vastly different results.
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>> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
>> of "Renee.Kraft via E-trademarks" <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
>> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:37 PM
>> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc: *"Renee.Kraft" <Renee.Kraft at target.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>
>>
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>> I also get 95 results with “big AND john” so at least there’s
>> consistency!
>>
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>> Maybe try closing out of the current search session and starting a new
>> one. You may have accidentally clicked something along the way that’s
>> causing the issue. I sound like tech support….have you tried rebooting? J
>>
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Crane, Susan via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:30 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* Crane, Susan <susan.crane at wyndham.com>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>
>>
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>> Odd, when I search “big john” in quotes, I get 95 results for marks
>> consisting of Big John
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>> *Susan L. Crane*
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>> *Group Vice President, Legal*
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>> *Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing*
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Richard Morris via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:24 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>
>>
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>> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. I can search for
>> “BIGJOHN” for example. But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get
>> hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG. I
>> only want to retrieve
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>> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark.
>>
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>> I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG
>> JOHN” as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and
>> or just the term BIG.
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>> I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words.
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>> Please help.
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>> Thanks
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>>
>>
>> Richard
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>> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
>> of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
>> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM
>> *To: *"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc: *Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
>> *Subject: *[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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>> to post a big WHINE about the new search function.
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>> I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers, to
>> name a couple of whines.
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>> Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS
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>> There are so many more whines.
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>> PTO—are you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.
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>>
>> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac Law
>> Group, PLLC
>>
>> 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025
>>
>> Washington, D.C. 20006
>>
>> jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com|www.potomaclaw.com
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