[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...

Ron Kadden rkadden at vonmaltitz.com
Tue Dec 5 18:36:03 EST 2023


Thanks for the "plurals" illustration.
I think Case Sensitive refers to the search results, not the tags. On the
help page, only a few of the tags are identified as Case Sensitive.

Ron Kadden

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 6:25 PM Edward Timberlake <ed at timberlakelaw.com>
wrote:

> Searching for plurals in field tags search field:
>
> [image: e6c8cb19-8bee-4b0f-bf2a-347d2e53341a.png]
> It was my understanding that case sensitivity in this context referred to
> the field tags themselves being case-sensitive (which is why CC:003
> returns 3,539,457 records, but cc:003 returns none):
>
> [image: 7ad4a367-5b55-4483-b62f-8717921e9586.png]
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ed Timberlake
> *Board Certified Specialist in Trademark Law
> <https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473>*
>
> *Timberlake Law* <http://timberlakelaw.com/>
> Chapel Hill, NC
>
> Schedule a call on Clarity <https://clarity.fm/edtimberlake>
> ed at timberlakelaw.com
> 919.960.1950
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:37 PM Ron Kadden <rkadden at vonmaltitz.com> wrote:
>
>> The problem with CM2 is that it's case sensitive. I think regex is safer
>> for searching plurals.
>>
>> Separately, I was not able to find plurals options by searching
>> "plurals".
>>
>> Ron Kadden
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:33 PM Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks <
>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No you don't.
>>>
>>> Field tag CM2 (among others) catches plurals:
>>>
>>> CM:digital AND CM2:solver
>>>
>>> Search Field: CM2
>>>
>>> (Enhanced combined mark - Combines word, pseudo mark, and translation
>>> fields with stemming and plurals)
>>>
>>> The search field options are pretty powerful, and can themselves be
>>> searched.
>>>
>>> (Just enter "plurals" into the search bar for search fields and a
>>> variety of options appear.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Ed Timberlake
>>> *Board Certified Specialist in Trademark Law
>>> <https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473>*
>>>
>>> *Timberlake Law* <http://timberlakelaw.com/>
>>> Chapel Hill, NC
>>>
>>> Schedule a call on Clarity <https://clarity.fm/edtimberlake>
>>> ed at timberlakelaw.com
>>> 919.960.1950
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:08 PM Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks <
>>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another fun one for plurals:
>>>> In "Expert" the first returns one result; the other returns zero
>>>> results.
>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>> If in "Basic" it's 12 and 4 results, and they do not overlap.
>>>> Thus, it appears that the system no longer does any plural-matching for
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> So, now, if you want to capture plurals, you have to use regex, such as
>>>> this: *CM:digital AND CM:/solver[es]{0,2}/*
>>>> So user-friendly!
>>>> Type of wordString to enterExample
>>>> Words that don’t end in y [es]{0,2} /tomato[es]{0,2}/ matches tomato,
>>>> tomatoe, tomatos, tomatoes
>>>> Words that end in y [yies]{1,4} /januar[yies]{1,4}/ matches January,
>>>> januaries
>>>> /saturda[yies]{1,4}/ matches Saturday, saturdays
>>>> Tim Ackermann
>>>> The Ackermann Law Firm
>>>>
>>>> E:  tim at ackermannlaw.com
>>>> P:  817.305.0690
>>>> F:  214.453.0810
>>>> W: ackermannlaw.com
>>>> O: 1701 W. Northwest Hwy. Ste. 100
>>>>      Grapevine TX 76051
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:26 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <
>>>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG
>>>>> JOHN” as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and
>>>>> or just the term BIG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on
>>>>> behalf of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <
>>>>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>>>>> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons
>>>>> to seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM
>>>>> *To: *"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <
>>>>> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
>>>>> *Subject: *[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> to post a big WHINE about the new search function.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers,
>>>>> to name a couple of whines.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are so many more whines.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PTO—are you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac
>>>>> Law Group, PLLC
>>>>>
>>>>> 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025
>>>>>
>>>>> Washington, D.C. 20006
>>>>>
>>>>> jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com|www.potomaclaw.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.potomaclaw.com/professionals-janet-f-satterthwaite
>>>>>
>>>>>
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