[E-trademarks] Trade Show booth as specimen

Crane, Susan susan.crane at wyndham.com
Wed Dec 13 18:47:33 EST 2023


In which case you simply need to explain that in the description of the specimen (or response to office action), because in context, the connection of the mark to the services would be clear to the consumer.

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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Trade Show booth as specimen

I'm wondering a little bit what the photo actually shows. A lot of tradeshow booths are the company name and a few people hanging around but no explicit text on the booth banner explaining what the company does. If you're at an accounting
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I'm wondering a little bit what the photo actually shows. A lot of tradeshow booths are the company name and a few people hanging around but no explicit text on the booth banner explaining what the company does.  If you're at an accounting show and the booth says ABC & Co., you wouldn't know from the picture that ABC & Co. is an accounting firm.

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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 3:35 PM Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
That shouldn’t be necessary.  If the mark is used to promote others goods, attending a trade show where you were promoting those goods, whether they could be ordered onsite or not, is still providing the service.  It is not akin to point of purchase displays.

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Can Applicant’s authorized representative certify personal knowledge that the photo accurately represents the reality including the date it was takenn; and also certify that there was an ordering mechanism at the trade show— parallel to what
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Can Applicant’s authorized representative certify personal knowledge that the photo accurately represents
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trade show— parallel to what a web sitte needs to have for goods, to be more than just advertising?


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On Dec 13, 2023, at 2:29 PM, Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:

Hello brain trust

We filed a use-based application for MARK for sales and marketing of [consumer goods].

The specimen was the mark prominently displayed on client's booth at an industry trade show.

The photo of the booth was from an industry blog.

The specimen has been refused, first, b/c the photo was in a third party blog (so???);

and second, because it does not show a direct association between the mark and the services.

How can that be? A booth at a trade show can only be for the purpose of sales and marketing of the goods. Moreover, the blog post described how the goods were displayed at the booth.

Has anyone encountered this before, before I dive in to the research?

thx

Janet

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