[E-trademarks] [EXT] Re: Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)

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Agree with Lara – why prolong the agony [Face with three eyes] !

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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Re: Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)

Precisely. I did my trial and will continue it only when forced to do so. I’m hopeful that they’ll do some more debugging in the interim.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)

AVOIDING it like the plague until they make me use it. Why prolong the inevitable misery?

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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 4:37 AM Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Is the collective wisdom to start “getting used to” the new system now, or wait to suffer and waste time after January 18 in the valiant hope that our thoughts will be heard from On High?

Reminds of management of forced labor, rowing on the open seas:  “The flogging wil continue until morale improves.”

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On Dec 18, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:

On 12/17/2024 6:07 PM, Patti Giuliano via E-trademarks wrote:
Having just used the new Beta application format for a few filings today, I think they should be paying us for this debacle of form.  I’ve been using it for a couple of months with little to no problems – even though the format is ridiculous and hard to review.  Today, two applications went through just fine.  The third one – not so much.  Twice it didn’t capture all the information (the information is on my “preview” copy but not on the emailed copy), I tried again, and the copy emailed to me was completely blank, and don’t get me started on the issues with the goods and services. Why does the USPTO like to change the order of the description?  You make a simple change, and it moves the phrase to the bottom of the list.  This just makes it harder to review.  If you need to make changes after you have emailed a draft to yourself, God be with you.  Warning:  there are things you cannot change after you have emailed a draft – like a matter number.  Why?  Oh why?  What a nightmare.  Yes, I’m frustrated.

I just went through (suffered through) a trademark filing in Trademark Center with a client.

Over and over again I would fill in various fields (for example where the applicant is incorporated) and click through to later steps in the click path, and then send it to the client, and the version received by the client would be missing one or more of the fields.

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