[E-trademarks] [Ip-transactions] [Patentcenter] [Patentpractice] Chevron Has been overruled by the S.Ct.

Fri Jun 28 17:54:58 EDT 2024

Not to get too political, but personally, I was struck by Justice Kagan's
line in the dissent, "the majority today gives itself exclusive power over
every open issue [...] involving the meaning of regulatory law."  And all
that I could think was, Yes, it is, in fact, emphatically the province and
duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.

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> Imho, the decision reduces the risk of Govt tyranny… Federal Agencies
> interpreting statutory law in an absurd way that bypasses Congress and/or
> turns the purpose of a statute on its head… e.g., Title IX being
> interpreted to force schools to allow biological males in female sports.
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> Whew, that was a long read.
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> I EMPHATICALLY disagree that "This decision is a start towards a more
> democratic government!!"  There are things to be said on both sides, but
> that statement is pure ignorance.  Justice Kagan sums it up -- "A rule of
> judicial humility gives way to a rule of judicial hubris."  Executive
> branch bureaucrats have some political accountability, and work from
> records that are thousands to hundreds of thousands of pages.  Judges
> don't.  (Yesterday, Justice Alito in *Moyle* patted himself on the back
> for mastering a record of 1300 pages and a couple hours of oral argument.
> If an agency had made a major decision on such a thin record, it'd be
> arbitrary and capricious.)
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> On balance, I think Justice Kagan looked more carefully at the statutory
> text and history, looked at a lot more of the practical consequences,
> thought more carefully, and exercised more judgment.  Kagan notes how
> Chevron has narrowed since its high-water mark in the late 1990s -- I
> agree, back then, it was a real problem.  But it self-corrected.  (Her
> explanation is darn close to my brief   https://ssrn.com/abstract=4520183
> )  I suggest reading her dissent (starting at page 82) first, then read the
> majority -- the majority's willful blindness is pretty apparent if you read
> Kagan first.  (I did it the conventional way, but I was deeply steeped in
> the case, so I could see my "magical thinking" flashers going off as I read
> Roberts.  If you're not an administrative law expert, read Kagan first.)
>
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>
> There are two classes to whom *Loper Bright *will be genuinely beneficial.
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>
>
> First, litigators. Justice Roberts has really underestimated the amount of
> uncertainty and re-litigation this is going to bring.
>
>
>
> Second, patent and trademark lawyers.  The Patent Office is a special case
> -- Congress gave the PTO and its senior executives motivations to cheat
> that don't apply to any other part of the executive branch.  We need to
> remember that the level of disrespect the PTO shows to the law is not
> pervasive throughout the government.  No other agency has the same
> incentives to tell the law to go to hell.
>
>
>
> A couple people have asked me whether I think this affects the *Chestek*
> case.  Maybe way at the margins, but I don't see anything direct.
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> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 11:17 AM Pete Sawicki via Patentcenter <
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> This decision is a start towards a more democratic government!!
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> Well, for example, with all their ‘interpretations’ that they claim give
> then the authority to enact, e.g., their proposed terminal disclaimer
> rules, IDS rules, etc., we can send comments to their proposed rulemaking
> and simply state that the USPTO has no authority to do so and slap a copy
> SCOTUS’ decision thereto the comment letter.
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> My response too.
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> Question is, how does this affect the PTO's current cheating?
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> And how does it affect Pam Chestek's cert petition?
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> DJF
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