[E-trademarks] Regex search

Fri Mar 15 22:22:12 EDT 2024

Sorry to join the game late.  I'm merely adding some alternative searches.  (Where's the view search history button?  I can see my old searches, but inconveniently I have to export the session history to see the hit counts for those searches.  And where's the full record display with search terms highlighted?  Not sure why the hit counts exploded in the last 3 searches.  Sorry - switching Bill Maher.)

Id
Query
ResultCount
Mode
1
GS:("t shirt" ~3 ) AND LD:true
                  1,246
Expert
2
GS:("tee shirt" ~3 ) AND LD:true
                     208
Expert
3
GS:("t shirt" ~2 ) AND LD:true
                  1,179
Expert
4
GS:("tee shirt" ~2 ) AND LD:true
                     166
Expert
5
( 1 ) NOT ( 3 )
                       67
Expert
6
GS2:("t shirt" ~3 ) AND LD:true
              177,539
Expert
7
GS2:("t shirt" ~2 ) AND LD:true
              177,538
Expert
8
GS2:("t shirt" ~1 ) AND LD:true
              177,534
Expert

Ken Boone
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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Regex search

Indeed, and the help materials couldn't be more terse and the
information more difficult to find, other than not to exist at all. I
have yet to figure out how (if possible) to search for a two-word
expression, like "baby bonnet,"  using regex.

Id    Query    ResultCount
3    GS2:(/baby/ AND /bonnet/)    2484
2    GS2:/baby bonnet/    0
1    GS2:"baby bonnet"    43

So you're left with trying to remember two similar, but not identical,
search systems, including how they treat quotation marks, reserved
characters, capitalization, etc.

Pam

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On 3/15/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Schafer via E-trademarks wrote:
> The fact that we have to make guesses about how the indexes work shows how poorly the PTO has implemented and documented this system. I wonder if examining attorneys have the same poor explanation about how the indexes work. If they do, that's really bad. If they have a fuller explanation, what possible reason would the PTO have for not making that explanation public?
>
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> Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Regex search
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> Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks wrote:
>
>> Can anyone explain to me why the first two search queries didn't give
>> me the same results as the third query? I was in expert mode.
>
>> GS:/t\-shirt/    0
>> GS:/t[-]shirt/    0
>> GS:t-shirt    511200
> When the GS index is used with a regular expression search, the index appears to contain each of the words of the goods and services field in isolation.  Spaces and hyphens separate words, but some other punctuation does not.  Your regexps do not match because t-shirt does not appear as a single word in the index.
>
> The GS index behaves differently when used with other types of search.
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> And the GS2 index also behaves differently.
>
> GS2:/t[-]shirt/
>
> returns 61,341 records.
>
> I know GS2 does some sort of stemming, but I haven't been able to synthesize a complete explanation.  If someone has GS2 figured it out, or knows of a document that describes its behavior, I hope they will explain.
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