[E-trademarks] Regex search

[Sam Castree]

Just curious, but is there a reason why that particular search would need
to use regex at all?  Maybe I'm way off (I definitely don't claim to have
mastered this system yet), but it seems like a..."normal" expert search
would work just fine.  GS:"baby bonnet" or whatever.

Cheers,

Sam Castree, III

*Sam Castree Law, LLC*
*3421 W. Elm St.*
*McHenry, IL 60050*
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On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:56 PM Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Indeed, and the help materials couldn't be more terse and the
> information more difficult to find, other than not to exist at all. I
> have yet to figure out how (if possible) to search for a two-word
> expression, like "baby bonnet,"  using regex.
>
> Id    Query    ResultCount
> 3    GS2:(/baby/ AND /bonnet/)    2484
> 2    GS2:/baby bonnet/    0
> 1    GS2:"baby bonnet"    43
>
> So you're left with trying to remember two similar, but not identical,
> search systems, including how they treat quotation marks, reserved
> characters, capitalization, etc.
>
> Pam
>
> Pamela S. Chestek
> Chestek Legal
> 300 Fayetteville Street
> Unit 2492
> Raleigh, NC 27602
> +1 919-800-8033
> pamela at chesteklegal.com
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>
> On 3/15/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Schafer via E-trademarks wrote:
> > The fact that we have to make guesses about how the indexes work shows
> how poorly the PTO has implemented and documented this system. I wonder if
> examining attorneys have the same poor explanation about how the indexes
> work. If they do, that's really bad. If they have a fuller explanation,
> what possible reason would the PTO have for not making that explanation
> public?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Richard A. Schafer | Schafer IP Law
> > P.O. Box 230081 | Houston, TX 77223
> > M: 832.283.6564 | richard at schafer-ip.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf
> Of Neil R. Ormos via E-trademarks
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 6:19 PM
> > To: E-trademarks Mailing List <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> > Cc: Neil R. Ormos <ormos-lists at ormos.org>
> > Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Regex search
> >
> > Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks wrote:
> >
> >> Can anyone explain to me why the first two search queries didn't give
> >> me the same results as the third query? I was in expert mode.
> >
> >> GS:/t\-shirt/    0
> >> GS:/t[-]shirt/    0
> >> GS:t-shirt    511200
> > When the GS index is used with a regular expression search, the index
> appears to contain each of the words of the goods and services field in
> isolation.  Spaces and hyphens separate words, but some other punctuation
> does not.  Your regexps do not match because t-shirt does not appear as a
> single word in the index.
> >
> > The GS index behaves differently when used with other types of search.
> >
> >    <
> https://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/2024-January/000554.html
> >
> >
> > And the GS2 index also behaves differently.
> >
> > GS2:/t[-]shirt/
> >
> > returns 61,341 records.
> >
> > I know GS2 does some sort of stemming, but I haven't been able to
> synthesize a complete explanation.  If someone has GS2 figured it out, or
> knows of a document that describes its behavior, I hope they will explain.
> >
> >
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