[E-trademarks] FW: Try Trademark Center beta

Fri Nov 22 16:54:29 UTC 2024

Well, then I'm wrong about that usage. And that probably explains why the
Office ignores us when it changes its software systems.
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:47 AM Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> I asked a trademark examining attorney one time what their estimate was on
> the number of applications they process that are from experienced trademark
> attorneys, rather than pro se or the passing lawyer who does applications
> as part of their general practice. Their estimate was 15%. We are a very
> small part of the user base and they won't be optimizing for us.
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> On 11/22/2024 8:40 AM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:
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> I’m all for making the USPTO as accessible as possible.  But making the
> trademark filing center mobile-friendly to the detriment of the majority of
> the user base doesn’t seem like a particularly sensible approach.  They
> could, for example, have created an app for mobile users, or they could
> have created separate versions of the website for mobile devices and
> desktops.  They could even have created two separate filing paths, one with
> more explicit steps and instructions (and more screens) for pro se filers
> and another for regular filers that more closely resembles what we have in
> TEAS now.
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> And I have to wonder what percent of filers fall into the category you
> describe.  I don’t imagine many people who live on less than $30K and have
> no internet access other than their phones are going to be willing or able
> to pay $350 or more for a trademark application, and unlike the patent side
> of the PTO, there’s no discount for small or micro entities for TM filings.
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> I suspect that this feature is not, in fact, intended for trademark
> attorneys, but for the 15% of U.S. adults who are smartphone-only internet
> users - who have a smartphone, but do not have home internet access. This
> is seen most commonly in adults with an annual income of $30,000 or less.
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> Seems like it would be nice if they could file a trademark application
> too, even if they don't have access to a computer, yes?
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> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:59 AM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <
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> I mean, I’m sure that there are examples of programmers designing a UI who
> were more out of touch with their user base, but I honestly can’t think of
> any offhand.
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> “Oh, the kids are gonna love this…”
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> On Nov 22, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Annette Heller via E-trademarks <
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> Why would one file an application on a mobile phone?  No I will not be
> filing on a phone!!!!
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> In a message dated 11/22/2024 9:07:50 AM Central Standard Time,
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> Have to shake my head at the top feature they tout on this email for the
> new TM Center—“a mobile-friendly design”?!?  Maybe I’m just a dinosaur, but
> are any of you preparing and filing trademark applications from your
> smartphone?
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> Trademark Center. For six months, we’ve offered the Trademark Electronic
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