[E-trademarks] Christopher H Stevens

Tue Feb 11 17:12:06 UTC 2025

Kevin - I really don't know what the USPTO sees on their end regarding the
account filing the application - that's beyond my knowledge base. I suspect
they /can/ see whose account is doing what, but there's nothing in the
system actually checking whether the log-in name matches the attorney name
listed in the application.

Annette - This is beyond my actual knowledge and getting into hypotheses,
but I actually don't think the scammers are using someone else's log-in. I
think they're using their own log-ins, and listing other people's names in
the attorney field on the application.

So for example - if I sign into my own account and validate it using my
email address, that's getting me access to the application itself. At that
point, there's really nothing to prevent me from listing Elle Woods, Perry
Mason, or Saul Goodman in the attorney name field on an application. As far
as I know, there's nothing in the system checking the accuracy of attorney
names, bar numbers, bar jurisdiction, or year of licensure, so I could
easily just put in 8675309, California, 1981, and it wouldn't be flagged or
noted as anything unusual - as long as there's /something/ in there for
applications claiming to be filed by an attorney.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 8:49 AM Annette Heller <tmattorneyheller at aol.com>
wrote:

> When one logs in using their validation password, there is a two step
> process since a code is sent to either one's email address or text.  So
> unless one has access to all the elements of a log in process how can a
> scammer use another party's log in?  So it appears that the problem is in
> the validation process of setting up an account.
>
> Annette
>
> Annette P. Heller
> Trademark/Copyright Attorney
> TM Law & Associates
> 400 Chesterfield Center Ste 400
> Chesterfield [St Louis] MO 63017
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> In a message dated 2/11/2025 10:43:17 AM Central Standard Time,
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com writes:
>
>
> Rachael,
>
>
>
> With regard to your point #2 below, can the USPTO tell what login
> credentials were used to file an application?  So, for example, if someone
> used John Smith’s login but listed me as the attorney (and signatory) on an
> application, is there any way for the PTO to tell it was filed under John
> Smith’s account and not mine?
>
>
>
> If they can’t, then that’s a serious problem and does make the whole
> validation process kind of pointless.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Kevin
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> *From:* Rachael Dickson <rachael at catalyticlaw.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2025 10:55 AM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Christopher H Stevens
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> Hi All,
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>
> I hosted an event on trademark scams a few months back and looked into
> these issues quite a lot back then (I believe you can access a recording of
> that event if you register for it here -
> https://www.altlegal.com/events/lloyd-mousilli-webinar-dont-get-tricked-unmasking-the-most-common-trademark-scams/
> ).
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>
> A few notes on some of the various emails I've seen the last day or two.
>
>
>
> 1. Yes, there was a non-IP attorney's name listed on over 2,500
> applications filed at the USPTO. Ana Vinueza was one of the speakers at my
> trademark scams event. You can read about Ana's story here.
> https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/trademark-attorney-impersonation-scams-thrive-during-crackdown
>
>
>
>
> Although the USPTO did remove her name from the applications, there have
> been new ones filed under her name since then; she's had to continually
> monitor the register to report new filings fraudulently listed under her
> name.
>
>
>
> Ana unfortunately has also had a number of ethics complaints filed against
> her because of the scammers' use of her name and has been having to defend
> herself against them. It's really quite bad.
>
>
>
> 2. While you do have to validate your identity to log in and access the
> application system, there's absolutely nothing checking whether your log-in
> identity is the same as the attorney name listed in the application as the
> attorney. I know this for a fact because I regularly list my firm's
> managing partner's name as the attorney on my trademark applications (for
> continuity purposes) and I've never once been asked to verify his identity
> or my right to list him as an attorney. There's also nothing checking
> whether an attorney's bar number is accurate or not. So we really have a
> "locked the front door but left the window wide open" situation here.
>
>
>
> I also have worked with Ana to help identify several other non-IP
> attorneys whose names were fraudulently listed on trademark applications;
> I've reached out to a few of them to alert them to the situation. All the
> attorneys I've found or spoken to whose names have been used in these scams
> are female attorneys barred in California; I'm not sure if this is a
> coincidence or not, but it is pretty alarming.
>
>
>
> 3. There is another type of trademark scam going around in which
> attorneys' names and bios have been stolen and used on websites and
> harassing cease and desist letters. This happened to another speaker at my
> trademark scam event - Kayla Jimenez. You can read more about her story
> here -
> https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/article/lawyers-worst-nightmare-attorney-voices-horror-after-falling-victim-trademark-impersonation-scam
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>
>
>
>
>
> Tl;dr The scams are really really bad right now. If you're angry about
> applications filed by or letters sent by a specific attorney, I'd highly
> suggest checking if that person even practices trademark law or works for
> the listed law firm before you file an ethics complaint or report them to
> the USPTO. It's unfortunately quite likely that they don't know /anything/
> about it.
>
>
>
> Also if you aren't doing so already, I'd suggest regularly searching the
> trademark register to make sure applications haven't been filed under your
> name without your knowledge.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rachael Dickson
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 7:28 AM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> This is the disconnect for me.  If we have to validate who we are in order
> to file, how are the scammers filing using names of attorneys that aren’t
> involved, or using fake names altogether?
>
>
>
> As for Mr. Stevens, if they aren’t filing under his name it seems that his
> identity hasn’t been “stolen,” at least as far as the PTO is
> concerned—scammers don’t have to verify attorney names for their ads and
> emails.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Gerry J. Elman via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2025 10:29 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Gerry J. Elman <gerry at elman.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Christopher H Stevens
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> But have you noticed that the trademark office already requires identity
> verification via Real ID?   Neither I nor my sponsored paralegal can log
> into the trademark filing/prosecution system without having been verified.
>
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> -Gerry Elman
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: Michael Brown via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
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> Date: 2/10/25 7:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
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> To: "For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal
> advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
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> Cc: Michael Brown <michaeljbrownlaw at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Christopher H Stevens
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>
>
> But considering how they have geared TC to pro se filers, and specifically
> made it more time consuming for trademark attorneys, I doubt that the PTO
> would change course and require any certification.
>
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> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 6:33 PM Rick Bigelow via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, this is all heading towards all of us being required to be
> certified by the TM Office, much the same as patent attorneys have to be
> registered to practice before the Patent Office.  Only certified attorneys
> will be allowed to log into TM Center and  submit/prosecute applications on
> behalf of clients.
>
>
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> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 6:15 PM carla calcagno via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> Thanks.  I will look into it.!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 6:04 PM Bosland Law <office at bosland.law> wrote:
>
> Are they still using TMScams at uspto.gov?
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> db
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> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 2:28 PM carla calcagno via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Susan. Assuming this is the case, does anyone know  who to contact
> at USPTO to report the group trademark.info who is misusing his name?
> Would you recommend the Solicitor's Office or Office of Enrollment and
> Discipline for example ?
>
>
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> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 5:15 PM Crane, Susan <susan.crane at wyndham.com>
> wrote:
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> They are probably “borrowing” his name.  There is an attorney in
> California named Christopher H. Stevens, but he does not appear to be an IP
> attorney.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2025 5:01 PM
> *To:* Oppedahl Carl <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [E-trademarks] Christopher H Stevens
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> One of my clients has been getting repeated letters allegedly from this
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