[E-trademarks] Trademark Center failures (was 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?)
Kevin Grierson
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Thu Jan 16 14:27:59 EST 2025
Thanks, I’ll give that a try. Much appreciated!
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You can do this by creating a "TEMPLATE" filing and then click "actions" and then "save as new draft." It's a bit cumbersome but seems to work.
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If any PTO lurkers are out there, it would be great to be able to save an application even after it has been filed, because sometimes we need to file multiple applications for the same party, and most of the information remains the same, so it would be great to be able to re-use the saved application as a template for additional filings. Unless I am missing something, the saved draft disappears now as soon as you file and there’s no way to download the saved file as there was with TEAS.
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I think they are still working on it. I participated in a beta earlier this week for some new features they are working on. They have definitely heard the complaints about how we need the ability to share files. But I doubt we will see changes on Saturday (hoping to be wrong!).
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Just looking at Trademark Center again -- it's remarkable, if not surprising, to find there has been no update (or 'release') in nearly TWO MONTHS. [https://trademarkcenter.uspto.gov/release-notes]
I guess it's perfect?
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On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 2:44 PM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Personally, if there are glitches in the process, I’d rather figure them out now while I still have TEAS to fall back on if I need something done ASAP.
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AVOIDING it like the plague until they make me use it. Why prolong the inevitable misery?
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 4:37 AM Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Is the collective wisdom to start “getting used to” the new system now, or wait to suffer and waste time after January 18 in the valiant hope that our thoughts will be heard from On High?
Reminds of management of forced labor, rowing on the open seas: “The flogging wil continue until morale improves.”
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On Dec 18, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
On 12/17/2024 6:07 PM, Patti Giuliano via E-trademarks wrote:
Having just used the new Beta application format for a few filings today, I think they should be paying us for this debacle of form. I’ve been using it for a couple of months with little to no problems – even though the format is ridiculous and hard to review. Today, two applications went through just fine. The third one – not so much. Twice it didn’t capture all the information (the information is on my “preview” copy but not on the emailed copy), I tried again, and the copy emailed to me was completely blank, and don’t get me started on the issues with the goods and services. Why does the USPTO like to change the order of the description? You make a simple change, and it moves the phrase to the bottom of the list. This just makes it harder to review. If you need to make changes after you have emailed a draft to yourself, God be with you. Warning: there are things you cannot change after you have emailed a draft – like a matter number. Why? Oh why? What a nightmare. Yes, I’m frustrated.
I just went through (suffered through) a trademark filing in Trademark Center with a client.
Over and over again I would fill in various fields (for example where the applicant is incorporated) and click through to later steps in the click path, and then send it to the client, and the version received by the client would be missing one or more of the fields.
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