[E-trademarks] Premature end of file?

Rebecca Brandau rjbrandau53 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 1 20:31:18 EST 2025


You would not believe how often I have muttered to myself, "I should have
gone to Med School." Of course, my fear is that now things are only going
to get worse, until Trump decides to close the USPTO because he owns
everything now.  (Just kidding, maybe).

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 8:31 PM Bosland Law via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Is it too late for me to become a physician, like my parents wanted?
>
>
> db
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 5:26 PM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks.  Here is a bit of a followup.
>>
>> Several people were so kind as to post followup comments on various
>> things to try.  I tried all of the suggested steps.  Hit your shift key
>> twice while humming the musical notes of the old CBS logo network
>> identification, that kind of thing.  Just joking!  But anyway none of them
>> worked.
>>
>> But then an email showed up from teas at uspto.gov.  It will be recalled
>> that I had reported the broken TEAS problem to teas at uspto.gov at 8:05 AM
>> Mountain Time. The followup for the listserv is that at 3:42 PM Mountain
>> Time (about 7½ hours later) an email arrived from teas at uspto.gov.  In
>> the body of the email was a link that was said to be the link for the
>> client to sign.
>>
>> I clicked on it and sure enough, it did look like it might be that.
>>
>> Now the problem is I don't really know how they did it.  Did they
>> methodically click and copy and paste to construct the entire response?  Do
>> I need to proofread the entire submission package line by line, indeed
>> character by character, to see if they avoided introducing any errors in
>> their clicking and copying and pasting?
>>
>> Or did they somehow magically manage to poke around in their database of
>> every possible pending TEAS submission package, and figure out which one I
>> was writing to them about, and did they somehow find it in their database,
>> and did they then somehow manage to coax it through the "generate a link
>> for client to sign" process, all without any risk of introducing errors?
>>
>> They did not say, and I expect I will never know the truth about what
>> they did.
>>
>> I felt like I had no choice but to proofread the entire thing from top to
>> bottom, line by line and character by character.  Anyway, it looked okay.
>> So now I have sent it to foreign instructing counsel for them to review.
>> And then for them to forward to their client for review and possible
>> e-signature.
>>
>> I guess I probably lost a thousand dollars' worth of professional time in
>> today's struggle.
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2025 8:25 AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks wrote:
>>
>> Hello listmates.  Seems to me that this has already been discussed but I
>> can't find it.
>>
>> I am trying to respond to an Office Action in TEAS.  This is the usual
>> long and detailed kind of response that you would never want to have to do
>> twice.
>>
>>    - detailed editing of the good and services
>>    - fiddling with entity information
>>    - entering a dozen fields of information to add myself as attorney
>>
>> I laboriously arrive at the "send the email to myself" thing so that I
>> can then forward it to the foreign instructing counsel for review.  I click
>> "send" and what I see next is:
>>
>> Application Exceptions
>> Error on line -1: Premature end of file.
>> Reference Id:
>> USPTO/ROA-2601:nnn:8200:eff:5de8:nnnn:5c6b:ba3-20250228100935630672-79396649-8906c69dnnnnnn3d6c52b2dbc9073d11f976e1ee9480e9c015ececee754fab3d83
>>
>> A first comment here is that I think of this error message as a value
>> subtractor.  It just uses up electrons and wastes the time of the reader.
>> Nothing in this error message does any of the normal things that we would
>> wish for an error message to do:
>>
>>    - it is absolutely silent on what exactly went wrong
>>    - It says nothing whatsover about what the filer supposedly did
>>    wrong, or what the filer would need to have done differently to get things
>>    to work
>>    - It gives no hint as to what the filer ought to do next
>>
>> I fear that I will end up having to do all of my laborious work all over
>> again.  It will suck up at least twenty minutes of my time, and doing the
>> work all over again introduces the risk of mistakes getting introduced into
>> the situation.
>>
>> And yes, I dropped an email to "teas at uspto.gov" <teas at uspto.gov>.
>>
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