[Patentpractice] Wishing the USPTO would at least disseminate CORRECT information

Tue Nov 28 19:33:32 EST 2023

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From: Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Patent Lawyer via Patentpractice
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 7:41 AM
To: For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
Cc: Patent Lawyer <patentlawyer995 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] Wishing the USPTO would at least disseminate CORRECT information

Two observations:

  1.  VA lawyers, looks like you may get 1 hour of free CLE.
  2.  The course will teach how to “Completing required written disclosure and patent application forms”.
I might attend just to find out about those required forms.

From: Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> on behalf of Richard Schafer via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
Reply-To: "For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:32 PM
To: "For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
Cc: Richard Schafer <richard at schafer-ip.com<mailto:richard at schafer-ip.com>>
Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] Wishing the USPTO would at least disseminate CORRECT information

And it’s particularly inappropriate for something addressed to pro se applicants.

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From: Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> On Behalf Of Daniel Feigelson via Patentpractice
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 12:19 PM
To: For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
Cc: Daniel Feigelson <djf at 4d-ip.com<mailto:djf at 4d-ip.com>>
Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] Wishing the USPTO would at least disseminate CORRECT information

This is the sort of rookie mistake that you let a new associate make at most once.
This is why we don't rely on the USPTO for legal advice.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:17 PM Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
One files a patent APPLICATION, not a PATENT.

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