[Patentpractice] Why should it cost more?

Tue Apr 2 18:21:11 UTC 2024

I’m curious about the extension fees they are proposing for provisional applications.  When would you need an extension in a provisional application?  Does the PTO issue missing parts notices?

And charging a fee for an AFCP?  I’m guessing it’s to recoup what they don’t get in RCE fees.  Such BS (oh, and they’re raising RCE fees, and adding another tier, so fees for RCE-1st, RCE-2nd, and RCE-3rd and above.  Joy.)

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IDS size fees ??  Are they including US references in the “cumulative number of applicant-provided items of information”?  Probably.
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Ugh.

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I want to know why it costs the USPTO $2,200 more to handle an application having a benefit claim that is >5 yrs than one with a benefit claim that is <5 yrs and $3,500 to handle an application with a benefit claim >8 yrs.

I call bullsh*t on their assertion that the proposed fee will off-set foregone maintenance fee revenue… If a continuing application has a shorter patent term such that the 11.5 yr MF doesn’t apply, then the USPTO doesn’t have to expend the time and effort to “maintain” the patent.  Besides each fee is to recoup the costs for the given thing.  Thus, e.g., the application filing fee is to cover the costs of intaking/processing the new application, examination fees to cover the costs for examination, … etc. and maintenance fees are to cover the costs of post-grant maintenance.

This and some other proposed fees look like another money grab by the USPTO so they can dole out money for, e.g., NASCAR sponsorships.

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