[Patentpractice] questions about new 'IDS size fee'

William Ahmed ahmed.william at ymail.com
Wed Mar 5 15:58:15 UTC 2025


Dear List,We have an application for which over 200 references were IDSed between it's 2023 filing date and Dec 31, 2024.
Question A --> If a new IDS is filed now, with 10 fresh references, does the USPTO require payment of the 'IDS size fee'? [i.e. the large number of refs were filed pre-Jan 19, 2025]
UPDATE -- we filed the IDS and paid the size-fee  
Question B --> If the IDS size fee was NOT required [see Question A] and our IDS included the 'size-declaration' [along with the fee], will the USPTO refund the $800?
Many thanks,Bill
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