[Patentpractice] taking much longer for a response to a non-final office action to get entered and forwarded to the Examiner?
Carl Oppedahl
carl at oppedahl.com
Thu Oct 9 15:17:36 UTC 2025
Oh yes RCEs.
As recently as a few weeks ago, it seemed that the LIEs pretty
consistently would turn around an RCE within two business days. But yes
I went and looked and the most recent RCE that we filed took seven days
to reach the Examiner.
Thank you for posting.
On 10/9/2025 9:07 AM, Julie Eslick wrote:
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> We filed a Response/RCE on October 1 and as of yesterday it still had
> not been entered. Status was still "Final Rejection mailed".
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> Julie A. Eslick
> IP Paralegal Specialist
> Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner LLP - Phoenix, AZ USA
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> julie.eslick at bclplaw.com
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> Subject: [Patentpractice] taking much longer for a response to a
> non-final office action to get entered and forwarded to the Examiner?
>
> Hello folks. Is it just me, or is it recently taking much longer for
> a response to a non-final office action to get entered and forwarded
> to the Examiner?
>
> And not just responses to non-final office actions?
>
> Also taking much longer for a response to a final office action to get
> entered and forwarded to the Examiner?
>
> In a recent case in Tech Center 2900, I filed a response on September
> 25 and it did not get forwarded to the Examiner until October 8. It took
> 13 days to get forwarded.
>
> In other recent cases in other Tech Centers, I have seen forwarding
> delays of 7 to 10 days.
>
> I fear that this is getting to be the new normal.
>
> In the old days it was commonplace that a response would get forwarded
> to the Examiner promptly -- within two or three days. Sometimes it
> would only take one day.
>
> The job title of the people who do this "entering and forwarding" is LIE
> -- legal instruments examiner.
>
> I can imagine that one factor explaining the new delays might be due
> to September 30 having passed and some LIEs who accepted the "fork in
> the road" are now gone. Although I guess many of the USPTO people who
> accepted the "fork in the road" would have ceased work long before
> September 30.
>
> I can imagine that this new long delay in forwarding to the Examiner
> might be different from one Tech Center to the next. One Tech Center
> might have lost more LIEs than another.
>
> Is it just me, or have others also been seeing new delays in
> forwarding to the Examiner?
>
> Carl
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