[Patentpractice] How do I get the good machine translation of a Chinese patent from Espacenet?

[Randall Svihla]

Я также изучал русский язык в университете.


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Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] How do I get the good machine translation of a Chinese patent from Espacenet?

Тупой трах дурок   (First time I've used my college Russian in ten years.)  What am I doing wrong?

I went to patents.google.com<http://patents.google.com>

I put  CN201811352821A into the google search bar.

I get the google page.   In "External links" I click "espacenet"  I get to https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/065695745/publication/CN109489160A?q=pn%3DCN109489160A

Same thing.  For "Bibliographic data" I get the red patent translate button.

But when I click on "Description" or "Original Document" the button disappears.

Same behavior in Firefox and Edge.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 5:32 PM Timothy Snowden <tdsnowden at outlook.com<mailto:tdsnowden at outlook.com>> wrote:

I got there by going to Google Patents and then clicking the "Espacenet" link. Beyond that, I always struggle remembering what the different 'espacenet' vs EPO register vs EPO global dossier systems do/mean
On 10/28/2025 4:30 PM, David Boundy wrote:
Grrr.   Yes, that's definitely different than where I am now.  How do I get there?

I hate software taht has this kind of gotcha.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 5:26 PM Timothy Snowden via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:

BTW - you have to click on the part you want to generate the translation for. Abstract shows by default, you have to click on the left for the "Description" or "Claims" to translate those separately.
On 10/28/2025 4:24 PM, Timothy Snowden wrote:

I just confirmed on Edge -- not sure if it may be that you're on a different part of the several different EPO portals

Here's a screenshot:

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On 10/28/2025 4:12 PM, David Boundy via Patentpractice wrote:
I can get the instant translate.  But it's almost illegible.  I want the "latest technology" translation that takes a minute or two.  I think I'm following the directions:


First choose the part you want to translate.  I went to the CN patent I want to translate, and then in the two rows I select "Original Document" and "Description"

Select the target language and then click the red patent translate button.  At the top right corner, I select "English V"  But I don't see a "red patent translate button" anywhere.

I've tried a bunch of different things, but I can't get a "red patent translate button"  (I'd be content with blue too.  Blue is my favorite color.)  I can get the "red patent translate button" for the front page bibliographic data, but when I click on "Description" or "Original document" the "red patent translate button" disappears.  How do I get to a "patent translate button" (of any color) for the "Description?"




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