[Patentpractice] Large Tables ASCII Format; Objecting to Post Allowance Drawing Correction Requirement
Carl Oppedahl
carl at oppedahl.com
Wed Oct 29 18:19:36 UTC 2025
Yes in our office this comes up about once every six months. We file a
paper saying what you said. It always works.
It is very satisfying each time it works.
Each time I present a three-day PCT live in-person class (the next one
will be this coming January or so), I have an hour-long section in which
I review the many factors that might prompt a filer to choose one way or
another as between bypass continuation or national phase.
And I just now realized this is yet another factor. If you pick bypass,
then you are vulnerable to these last-minute demands to prepare and file
new drawings. Each of which risks a later accusation that new matter
supposedly got added.
In contrast, if you pick national-phase, then you can tell them to pound
sand when they send you a last-minute demands to prepare and file new
drawings.
So thank you, Roger, you have triggered an improvement to that section
of the class.
Carl
On 10/29/2025 9:32 AM, Roger Browdy wrote:
>
> The below posting has a very interesting reference to MPEP 1893.03(f),
> which says that the USPTO may not impose drawing requirements during
> examination of a national stage appln beyond those imposed by the
> PCT. My question is, has anyone objected to a Notice to file
> Corrected Application Papers after allowance asking that the Notice be
> withdrawn on this grounds? I am interested in the success rate for
> such an argument.
>
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> Behalf Of *Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice
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> *Cc:* Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentpractice] Large Tables ASCII Format
>
> On 6/2/2025 12:48 PM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:
>
> Facts:
>
> National Phase application was filed with pages and pages of tables
>
> Application allowed.
>
> Got a Notice to Correct Application Papers because font of Tables
> too small
>
> Increasing the font size makes the total pages close to 900 pages,
> which requires 11 ADDITIONAL units of application size fees from
> what was previously paid.
>
> I have the tables in ASCII format (prepared for a CON).
>
> Question: In response to the Notice, can we amend the
> specification to delete the embedded tables and provide in ASCII
> format (by amending the specification to incorporate the ASCII
> tables)?
>
> I understand extra page fees are calculated as 3 KB = 1 page,
> which significantly decreases the amount of fees to something like
> 2 additional units of application size fees.
>
> I called patent publications (waited over an hour), they
> transferred me to “case resolution team” for post-allowance stuff,
> who simply said they don’t know. I thus called OPLA and got no
> one and hence left a message hours ago.
>
> I wonder if MPEP § 1893.03(f) would be of any help? Here is what I
> filed recently in one of my national-phase cases.
>
> Request that Notice to File Corrected Application Papers be withdrawn
> The undersigned has now received a Notice to File Corrected
> Application Papers dated May 28, 2025.
> It is signed by <redacted> in the Publication Branch.
> The Notice says "The figure label for FIG. 6 is not oriented in
> the same direction as the figure." The
> Notice purports to require that the applicant respond with an
> amendment to the drawings.
> The Publication Branch is requested to comply with MPEP §
> 1893.03(f) which says:
>
> The USPTO may not impose drawing requirements during the
> examination of a national stage
> application beyond those imposed by the Patent Cooperation
> Treaty ( e.g., PCT Rule 11).
>
> The present application is a national phase application. It is
> thus apparent that the Notice to File
> Corrected Application Papers was improper.
> So as to comply with MPEP § 1893.03(f), the Publication Branch is
> requested to withdraw the Notice
> to File Corrected Application Papers.
> Respectfully submitted,
>
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