[Patentpractice] NO SOUP FOR YOU!
Carl Oppedahl
carl at oppedahl.com
Mon Sep 15 23:35:31 UTC 2025
There you go again using technical terminology. :)
On 9/15/2025 1:35 PM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:
>
> Someone please save me from responding with a reply refusing to change
> the status identifier and demanding that the USPTO DOES ITS FREAKING JOB.
>
> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/>*|* Partner
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> *From:*Suzannah K. Sundby
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 4:34 PM
> *To:* Goldberg, Judi <jgoldberg at leydig.com>; For patent practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
> <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>; Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>
> *Subject:* RE: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> The person who flagged was with Legal Instruments … meaning it never
> got to the Examiner (as I understand)
>
> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/>*|* Partner
>
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> T: 202.486.8020
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> F: 202.540.8020
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> *From:*Goldberg, Judi <jgoldberg at leydig.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 4:31 PM
> *To:* For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>; Randall Svihla
> <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>
> *Cc:* Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
> *Subject:* RE: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> The MPEP allows for the following identifiers.That being said, the
> examiners are being *much* pickier.I recently had some NPL refs in an
> IDS not be considered because the publisher or publisher’s location
> weren’t included in the cite (which I had previously only done when
> citing a book, not a journal article.)It buys them more time to delay
> examining the application.
>
> *From:*Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 3:23 PM
> *To:* Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>; For patent practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
> <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentpractice] NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> *[External Email]*
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> LIE, Terry Bryant.
>
> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/>*|* Partner
>
> _canady + lortz__LLP_ <http://www.canadylortz.com/>
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> 1050 30th Street, NW
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> Washington, DC 20007
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> T: 202.486.8020
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> F: 202.540.8020
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> suzannah at canadylortz.com <mailto:suzannah at canadylortz.com>
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> *From:*Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 4:09 PM
> *To:* Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>; For patent
> practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
> <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Subject:* RE: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> Ridiculous.Was it signed by the Examiner, or an LIE?
>
> *From:*Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 4:08 PM
> *To:* Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>; For patent practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
> <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Subject:* RE: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> Filed September 1, 2025.
>
> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/>*|* Partner
>
> _canady + lortz__LLP_ <http://www.canadylortz.com/>
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> 1050 30th Street, NW
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> Washington, DC 20007
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> T: 202.486.8020
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> F: 202.540.8020
>
> suzannah at canadylortz.com <mailto:suzannah at canadylortz.com>
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> *From:*Randall Svihla <rsvihla at nsiplaw.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 4:05 PM
> *To:* For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
> *Subject:* RE: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> Annoying.When did you file a response?It may have come up for action
> and the Examiner didn't want to work on it because it's the end of the
> fiscal year so he got it off his docket this way.
>
> 37 CFR 1.121(c)(3):
>
> * (3) /When claim text in clean version is required./The text of all
> pending claims not being currently amended shall be presented in
> the claim listing in clean version, /i.e.,/ without any markings
> in the presentation of text.The presentation of a clean version of
> any claim having the status of “original," "withdrawn" or
> "previously presented" will constitute an assertion that it has
> not been changed relative to the immediate prior version, except
> to omit markings that may have been present in the immediate prior
> version of the claims of the status of "withdrawn" or "previously
> presented."Any claim added by amendment must be indicated with the
> status of "new" and presented in clean version, /i.e.,/ without
> any underlining.
>
> MPEP 714(C):
>
> Example of listing of claims:
>
> Claims 1-5 (canceled)
>
> Claim 6 (withdrawn): A process for molding a bucket.
>
> Claim 7 (previously presented): A bucket with a handle.
>
> Claim 8 (currently amended): A bucket with a green_blue_ handle.
>
> Claim 9 (withdrawn): The process for molding a bucket of claim 6 using
> molten plastic material.
>
> Claim 10 (original): The bucket of claim 8 with a wooden handle.
>
> Claim 11 (canceled)
>
> Claim 12 (previously presented): A bucket having a circumferential
> upper lip.
>
> Claim 13 (not entered)
>
> Claim 14 (new): A bucket with plastic sides and bottom.
>
> * (E) *Acceptable Alternative Status Identifiers:* To prevent delays
> in prosecution, the Office may waive certain provisions of *37 CFR
> 1.121
> <https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#d0e323020>* and
> accept alternative status identifiers not specifically set forth
> in *37 CFR 1.121(c)
> <https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#d0e323020>*.
> Accordingly claim listings that include alternative status
> identifiers as set forth below will be accepted if the amendment
> otherwise complies with *37 CFR 1.121
> <https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#d0e323020>*.
> See /Acceptance of Certain Non-Compliant Amendments Under 37 CFR
> 1.121(c),/ 1296 OG 27 (July 5, 2005).
>
> *_Status Identifiers Set _**Forth in 37 CFR 1.121(c)***
>
>
>
> *_Acceptable Alternatives_***
>
> 1. Original
>
>
>
> Original Claim; and Originally Filed Claim
>
> 2. Currently amended
>
>
>
> Presently amended; and Currently amended claim
>
> 3. Canceled
>
>
>
> Canceled without prejudice; Cancel; Cancelled; Canceled herein;
> Previously cancelled; Canceled claim; Deleted; and Previously canceled
>
> 4. Withdrawn
>
>
>
> Withdrawn from consideration; Withdrawn – new; Withdrawn claim; and
> Withdrawn – currently amended
>
> 5. Previously presented
>
>
>
> Previously amended; Previously added; Previously submitted; and
> Previously presented claim
>
> 6. New
>
>
>
> Newly added; and New claim
>
> 7. Not entered
>
>
>
> Not entered claim
>
> *The Office may also accept additional variations of the status
> identifiers provided in 37 CFR 1.121(c)
> <https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#d0e323020> not
> listed above if an Office personnel determines that the status of the
> claims is accurate and clear. When accepting alternative status
> identifiers, the examiner is not required to correct the status
> identifiers using an examiner’s amendment.*Applicant will not be
> notified and will not be required to submit a corrective compliant
> amendment. The examiner does not need to make a statement on the
> record that the alternative status identifiers have been accepted.
>
> https://www.uspto.gov/news/og/2005/week27/patamnd.htm
>
> *From:*Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2025 3:48 PM
> *To:* patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com
> *Cc:* Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
> *Subject:* [Patentpractice] NO SOUP FOR YOU!
>
> Got a Notice of Non-Compliant Amendment
>
> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/>*|* Partner
>
> _canady + lortz__LLP_ <http://www.canadylortz.com/>
>
> 1050 30th Street, NW
>
> Washington, DC 20007
>
> T: 202.486.8020
>
> F: 202.540.8020
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> suzannah at canadylortz.com <mailto:suzannah at canadylortz.com>
>
> www.canadylortz.com <http://www.canadylortz.com/>
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