[Patentpractice] Fw: Patent Center change - another way to publicly access file history

[Tim Ackermann]

Isn't Global Dossier also still available for anyone to use?
https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/
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On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 11:11 AM Dana Stangel via Patentpractice <
patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> There is another way to publicly access the file wrapper of published
> applications.  It is more awkward to use than patent center, at least with
> the current interface for my purposes, but it doesn't require login.  It
> seems to work better with some browsers than others, but I haven't worked
> with it much yet.
> Links:
> https://data.uspto.gov/patent-file-wrapper/search
> https://data.uspto.gov/home
> You might consider sharing the links with your foreign associates, most of
> them want to be able to see files electronically too.
> -Dana
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* david--- via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *To:* Dan Feigelson <djf at iliplaw.com>
> *Cc:* david at hricik.com <david at hricik.com>; "
> patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com" <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2025 at 08:22:38 AM MDT
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentpractice] Patent Center change
>
> I thought about that route (provisional). It does seem to be likely to be
> unlawful but I need to read the statutes.  There’s no more physical shoes
> where you can search prior art,and I assume those had been statutorily
> required.
>
> Don’t get me started on the rest.
> David Hricik
> 151 Country Creek Rd.
> Macon, GA 31220
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2025, at 9:07 AM, Dan Feigelson <djf at iliplaw.com> wrote:
>
> 
> David, I have not looked at the form for verifying one's identity via
> paper since getting a USPTO account many years ago.  So in response to your
> email, I looked at what the USPTO has to say about using PatentCenter, and
> found that the instructions for new users
> <https://gcfagjf.r.af.d.sendibt2.com/tr/cl/RG5kATAGQJxrnW1-ouDyea13AEap9uuOfvVtEDPXIW_LiBnKHPMM2NdkmX27ZnZ_ussJJRU1GuLbpkixX7BPr3y3WY97h99caerCZDSud_BSdG1DZ-TGH0dx2PiblyRCy4fLwPUw-BESQVHlQiYKU7JTq79l9OYRkN7sMCEuEWuXdFl5ykQIolp_-mnR_MUk6MB5VXHbPwe0zTNds29iEocTiS0yfpqWuOs64m4SuCPSy8XU89MhcT0QxSTIjM4Pmw8BFYbfTkXxx5_VNEJiKwac9QaOMU2ZB0FjURncuAOPH6RaRKwLLOGsLd0SLltSzbeTkMGGxuyOLBoA-w>
> are themselves confusing. I also found that you appear to be correct: the paper
> form
> <https://gcfagjf.r.af.d.sendibt2.com/tr/cl/3EBu7EYo0Y10ibZZEuZzUEOP4uEl1HDVUXKaGerr81GHDWmlMCgZ9v3ZPwAoMKvRId4cqf-DSRRzwoJ_r2AQwDVe4_2AbbPQb7Xye9LPrNW3DRv7pnIn1mcd0rv7hYgZrmwxvJI5Pq7y_6QXmLNs0Zb21NNu7GOGfS_9IilEM7icJm9_nxJa7xb9N1EW2jkH_3qMRRSZHn1Gz9CCmfDuaiZmWnZIdB0fYvujt3W4TwODWdOaoqWDgTb5JkwKnKw4g-57FPebOiFFnR4H8eU79UKXIcgv-ovDIqPhY8ESOMJIiUbwX-hVEApQyUfrxTr6GlGp>
> for verifying one's ID with the PTO requires that one be a licensed
> practitioner, or a limited recognition practitioner, or a pro se inventor.
> If you're not one of those, you're not entitled to look at the USPTO
> records. Not only is that unbelievably stupid policy, but I'm certain that
> that position violates some federal statute, and even if allowed by
> statute, did not go through notice-and-comment rulemaking.
>
> You could sue the PTO, but I suggest a cheaper course of action: think up
> a dumb idea that may be (but more likely is not) patentable, write a
> one-page description of that idea that includes at least one patent-type
> claim on the idea, and file the one-pager as a provisional patent
> application, listing yourself as inventor. That will make you a pro se
> inventor, which will allow you to register as a PatentCenter user under the
> PTO's current (indefensible) rules.  I suggest filing a provisional because
> (a) it's a low fee compared to a non-provision and (b) with a provisional,
> there's no requirement for an oath/declaration averring that you consider
> yourself to be the original inventor of what is claimed.
>
> Finally, I'm thinking it must be really nice to be someone like Kathi
> Vidal, on whose watch they decided to destroy private and public PAIR. You
> FUBAR the agency you're the head of and the people who need that agency,
> then leave for a nice private-sector gig without any repercussions for the
> mess you created. Nice work if you can get it.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 1:17 AM David Hricik via Patentpractice <
> patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> I doubt many of you need to use it, but the PTO recently (start of the
> month) changed patent center to only practitioners or “independent
> inventors” can have permission to access it.  For patent litigators or a
> lot of other people, that’s not a good development. Anyone know why the
> change?
>
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