[Pct] Filing at RO/IB and electing ISA/US - problem

Carl Oppedahl carl at oppedahl.com
Wed Nov 22 16:36:39 EST 2023


Yeah.  So there's no real question the USPTO failed to do what you paid 
the USPTO to do.

So next steps.  Did you already call the PCT Help Desk?  If so, what 
happened next?

On 11/22/2023 10:44 AM, Andrew Berks wrote:
> Yes the transaction showed up Financial Manager and looked normal 
> there with the correct application no.
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:30 AM Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com> wrote:
>
>     On 11/22/2023 9:00 AM, Andrew Berks via Pct wrote:
>>     I had a problem earlier this year in another case filed at the
>>     RO/IB and electing the ISA/US. First of all, I frequently
>>     recommend the ISA/US with small entity clients because the
>>     search fee is lower with small entity prices. The problem was
>>     that the ISA/US made a unity of invention objection and issued an
>>     invitation to pay an additional search fee. The client was OK
>>     with this, but this case did not appear on Patent
>>     Center/EFSweb/Private PAIR - because it was filed at RO/IB. We
>>     had to pay the fee with a credit card form that was faxed, which
>>     is really ridiculous. Putting full credit card info on a paper
>>     and faxing it is not secure. The fee payment form was clearly
>>     marked with what the money was for - the additional search fees.
>>
>>     But the people who do the searching didn't get the message that
>>     the additional fees were paid and issued the WOSA without
>>     searching the second invention. Bottom line - this bad WOSA was
>>     issued in March 2023 and as of today (Nov. 21, 2023) this
>>     situation is still not resolved.
>>
>
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