[Pct] Filing at RO/IB and electing ISA/US - problem
Carl Oppedahl
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Tue Nov 28 09:44:52 EST 2023
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> *From:* Pct <pct-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf Of *Andrew
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> *Subject:* Re: [Pct] Filing at RO/IB and electing ISA/US - problem
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> They are still working on it. Some time in April they said yes we made
> a mistake we'll redo the WOSA, but then they didn't issue it until
> October, and they still didn't search the second invention. I advised
> the client to drop it and file Art 34 amendments and a demand, but the
> client called the PCT help desk and apparently they promised to redo
> the search report a third time. Some may find it hard to believe but
> many clients actually take these patents seriously!
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> The 30 mo. date is in March, so the IPRP will probably issue after the
> 30 mo. date. FYI if you want to see the case its WO 2023/042178 A2.
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> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com> wrote:
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> Yeah. So there's no real question the USPTO failed to do what you
> paid the USPTO to do.
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> So next steps. Did you already call the PCT Help Desk? If so,
> what happened next?
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> On 11/22/2023 10:44 AM, Andrew Berks wrote:
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> Yes the transaction showed up Financial Manager and looked
> normal there with the correct application no.
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> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:30 AM Carl Oppedahl
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> On 11/22/2023 9:00 AM, Andrew Berks via Pct wrote:
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> I had a problem earlier this year in another case
> filed at the RO/IB and electing the ISA/US. First of
> all, I frequently recommend the ISA/US with small
> entity clients because the search fee is lower with
> small entity prices. The problem was that the ISA/US
> made a unity of invention objection and issued an
> invitation to pay an additional search fee. The client
> was OK with this, but this case did not appear on
> Patent Center/EFSweb/Private PAIR - because it was
> filed at RO/IB. We had to pay the fee with a credit
> card form that was faxed, which is really ridiculous.
> Putting full credit card info on a paper and faxing it
> is not secure. The fee payment form was clearly marked
> with what the money was for - the additional search fees.
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> But the people who do the searching didn't get the
> message that the additional fees were paid and issued
> the WOSA without searching the second invention.
> Bottom line - this bad WOSA was issued in March 2023
> and as of today (Nov. 21, 2023) this situation is
> still not resolved.
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