[Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp

Andrea R. Jacobson arj at mcgarrybair.com
Tue Nov 7 14:12:42 UTC 2023


I believe the status date has been different for quite a while –I know that I have noticed it’s a very different date related to issued patents because it has tripped me when doing intake of transferred files.  On active matters it seems to quite often use the imaging date and not the mailing date. Some example:

A patent issued today shows a status of “Patented Case 10/18/2023” which is the mailing date of the issue notification.

A non-final OA has a status of “Non Final Action Mailed 11/02/2023” which is the imaging date of the non-final action.

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Thanks 😊

I’ve checked Word and my date and time are set to my time zone. So I don’t know what is going on.

With your issue, unfortunately, I’ve noticed the “status” date has mostly differed from the last action in documents and transactions.

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Don’t feel silly. Patent Center is making us question a lot of stuff. Today I looked up a just-issued office action for a pending patent application in Patent Center. The office action was emailed today, Nov 6, 2023, but the “status” says it was mailed Nov 2, 2023. Obviously this affects the due date for the response. And there was zero activity in documents or transactions on Nov2.

However, I checked PAIR and it too showed the same inconsistent status date (once I finally got in after getting the “search limit reached” error message – twice).

So, has the “status” date always differed from the last action in documents and transactions? I don’t know, but it’s Patent Center that made me wonder.

Sandra

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EBC doesn’t know, maybe that’s new. But now I’m wondering if that is my version of Word that inserted the timestamp. I feel a bit silly.

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Hi, Rachel

Obviously they are using GMT.  Why are they using GMT?  The system they are using to check the DOCX document for errors must be running on GMT.  Maybe it's in the UK or Ireland?  Although I would think foreign export laws would prevent that.  As far as how does it affect the filing date, who knows?  Call the EBC and ask them.

Good luck.

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Subject: [Patentcenter] USPTO timestamp

I’m filing an application in docx format. Looking at the USPTO feedback document, their timestamp on their comments is 5 hours ahead (I’m in EST).

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Is this an issue? What if I was filing at 11:00 pm EST?

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