[Patentcenter] Problems with First Action Prediction; Link to Patent Center reference guide

Carl Oppedahl carl at oppedahl.com
Wed Nov 15 23:03:58 UTC 2023


By this I mean a half-competent programmer at the USPTO.  Or at 
whichever beltway bandit has the contract to handle this function.

On 11/15/2023 9:50 AM, Carl Oppedahl via Patentcenter wrote:
>
> Yes, there is still a way.  A half-competent programmer (yes I realize 
> we are assuming a fact not in evidence) could take any case that is in 
> Central Docket and look to see how it is classified.  And could then 
> do a lookup in the class-to-art-unit table.  And then could do a look 
> up in the art-unit-to-pendency table.  And then we would have the 
> FOAP, with the exact same math result as one would have gotten under 
> the old workflow.
>
> On 11/15/2023 9:11 AM, Randall Svihla via Patentcenter wrote:
>>
>> The reason First Action Prediction was not working in EFS-Web is that 
>> new applications are no longer assigned to an Art Unit immediately 
>> after classification.Rather, they are parked in OPAP - Central 
>> Docket, so there is no way to determined a First Action Prediction 
>> based on the Art Unit the application will be examined in.
>>
>> Randall S. Svihla
>>
>> NSIP Law
>>
>> Washington, D.C.
>>
>> *From:*Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
>> Behalf Of *Kurt VanVoorhies via Patentcenter
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2023 10:03 AM
>> *To:* patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com
>> *Cc:* Kurt VanVoorhies <vortekx at centurytel.net>
>> *Subject:* [Patentcenter] Problems with First Action Prediction; Link 
>> to Patent Center reference guide
>>
>> Ironically, in the Patent Center FAQs page, topic "*Where can I find 
>> the Patent Center user guides?*", the link to the *Patent Center 
>> reference guide* <https://www.uspto.gov/patent/docx> page. links 
>> instead to the docx documents page.  I called the EBC this morning, 
>> and they escalated this issue.
>>
>> I also inquired as to how to find First Action Predictions for new 
>> applications (the reason for my seeking the user guide), and was 
>> informed that this was a known issue and presently not possible. The 
>> agent had no knowledge of whether this feature will be reinstated, 
>> but instead advised that one would need to contact the Examiner for 
>> this info.
>>
>> Kurt VanVoorhies
>>
>>
>
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