[Patentcenter] why pay Issue Fee again? (was Patent Center Issue Fee Payment Bugs)

[Randall Svihla]

Perhaps.  Our firm is uploading the PDF Issue Fee Transmittal form.  I'm not sure what will happen in that case if you need to apply a previously paid form.  Obviously they need to fix this.

Randall S. Svihla
NSIP Law
Washington, D.C.


From: Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:02 AM
To: patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com
Subject: why pay Issue Fee again? (was Patent Center Issue Fee Payment Bugs)


I doubt that she is paying the Issue Fee again.

Likely what happened is she paid the Issue Fee, and then the case got withdrawn from issue for any of several possible reasons.  Eventually whatever condition it was that caused the case to get withdrawn from issue, that condition got addressed, and now a new Notice of Allowance arrives.  When that happens, the application status is that it will go abandoned unless the practitioner hands in a signed Issue Fee Transmittal (form 85B).  This might or might not be accompanied by money.
On 11/16/2023 5:47 AM, Randall Svihla via Patentcenter wrote:
Hi, Judith

Why were you paying the Issue Fee again?

Best regards,

Randall S. Svihla
NSIP Law
Washington, D.C.


From: Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com><mailto:patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Judith S via Patentcenter
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 11:36 PM
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Subject: [Patentcenter] Patent Center Issue Fee Payment Bugs

I paid some issue fees today. It was exciting, and much more time consuming than it should have been.

I got to see the "change entity size" bug in action, where I had to restart the Web-Issue Fee after changing the entity size in the PatentCenter-Status Page, because it didn't work otherwise. (CP138).

It appears you cannot use Web-Issue Fee if you previously paid the issue fee. If you click on the option to apply that fee, you cannot continue to the next page. I tried this on multiple browsers.  I ended up filing a paper issue fee payment.  It does helpfully say:

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But you can't click continue.

If the system fills in the Assignee from the ADS (which usually doesn't work for me, the Assignee type is indicated as "Organization" with a warning to change to the type. If you do, the system does not save that change.  So when you open the Web-85 form, it'll show "Organization." It will not error as a result though, so you can submit it with the incorrect entity identification. I don't know what happens if you do, because I correct this by going back, deleting the auto-filled entity & re-entering their data.

[cid:image002.png at 01DA187D.16439F40]Two bonus bugs:

It took a few tries to log in.  I got this brand new error message.
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And when I tried to get into my Workbench, I got this exciting new message.

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Today was a super fun day. I can't wait for tomorrow.

Judith





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