[E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search

[Maria Eliseeva]

Yes. It didn’t even occur to me that anyone would change the LD field. I tried and tried, kept wasting lots of time and getting tons of dead marks while the essence of my search was live use-based marks, i.e. the opposite. I finally started searching for anything that would help and found an example online. There was no manual or an instruction booklet with the changes relative to TEAS, which would be convenient. 

 

LD:true what? True live? True dead? Both are true depending. 

 

Patent practitioners don’t have the long familiar EFS/PAIR tools anymore either, and it is a double disaster. 

 

Maria

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From: Martin, Winfield B. (Perkins Coie) [mailto:WMartin at perkinscoie.com] 
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Subject: RE: [E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search

 

This is a small gripe among many more significant ones, but it’s driving me nuts that they changed the terminology for L/D searching that we all used for years and years. Why? Just to ensure that none of our intuitions would stay useful?

 

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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> > On Behalf Of Maria Eliseeva via E-trademarks
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2023 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search

 

Yes, that worked for me today. It used to be LD:live that we sued for many years, I tried using it today and kept getting dead marks. I did eventually get to the manual to see that now for the reasons that escape me the field should be LD:true. 

 

Maria Eliseeva

 

From: E-trademarks [mailto:e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Fritz via E-trademarks
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2023 9:23 PM
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Cc: Jacob Fritz <jcbfritz2 at gmail.com <mailto:jcbfritz2 at gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search

 

I believe that, since you are now using fields tags, you have to use LD:true instead of the checkboxes.

 

Thanks,

Jake

 

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 8:14 PM mary harris via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> > wrote:

Using expert (for me, currently a misnomer) mode, I did a search for a field tag (CM) and one class.  Once the results came up, I tried at that point to un-check dead marks but it's greyed out.  So is that something that you have to do prior to hitting the search command icon?  It seems to me that you should be able to look at all the results and THEN narrow them with the toggle switches.

 

I am so confused!!

 

Mary

 

 

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