[E-trademarks] Case law re proving really really old use

voyer@keganlaw.com daniel at keganlaw.com
Thu Nov 30 12:37:59 EST 2023


Back in paper library days, there was a prominent serial with news articles, company mentions, etc.
Depends of course on a) what is to be proved and b) what the judging authority is. The “what”
includes just “at least as early as,” or a precise, eg during the Great Chicago Fire of 1871.
A good professional librarian might flood you with possible resources.
Standard evidence rules.

Daniel Kegan, daniel at keganlaw.com

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> Some companies have been around since before computers. Sales records and other evidence of use from the early years are long gone. Does anyone know any case law about proving earlier use when most business records are long gone? Federal court or ttab case law would help. Thank you all.

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