[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...

Thu Nov 30 19:53:35 EST 2023

Absolutely yes.

Cheers,

Sam Castree, III

*Sam Castree Law, LLC*
*3421 W. Elm St.*
*McHenry, IL 60050*
*(815) 344-6300*

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:06 PM Maria Crimi Speth via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Completely agree!!
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> *Maria Crimi Speth*********
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Julia Anne Matheson via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:51 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>; Richard Morris <
> richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Cc:* Julia Anne Matheson <jmatheson at potomaclaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> All –   My biggest WHINE to the PTO is that the single page that we used
> to get in TESS that shows basis, app no, reg. no, full goods/services,
> status, etc.  is not gone – forcing you to go
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> sophospsmartbannerend
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> All –
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> My biggest WHINE to the PTO is that the single page that we used to get in
> TESS that shows basis, app no, reg. no, full goods/services, status, etc.
> is not gone – forcing you to go into TARR (which is a much less agile
> system) and into each category.  It is making what used to be a very simple
> search process *so much more time intensive* and frustrating.
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> Please, PTO lurkers, can you bring BACK the overview search page?  To not
> be able to see this information at a glance is incredibly frustrating.
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> Julia
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *carla calcagno via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 6:39 PM
> *To:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Cc:* carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>; For trademark practitioners.
> This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> Thanks Richard
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>  But at the bottom of the results page, I get weird marks like "Brappers"
> and "Heimlich Helper", because they are picking up corporate names as
> well.
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> This doesn't matter too much here, as there so few results, but I can
> imagine a case where the mark is weak and the Search All will get you MANY
> results.  If anyone at the USPTO is monitoring this,  it would be great if
> they could post on their help page an answer to this. Or, does the PTO have
> a place where one can send  questions that can then be added to the Help
> page
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> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> wrote:
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> Here is the glitch.
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> If you search “big john” under *Wordmark* search you get 8,929 hits.
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> If you search “big john” under *Search by all* then you get 21 hits.
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> *From: *carla calcagno <cccalcagno at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM
> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> Thanks Richard
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> You are in basic search right?
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> And what is the search term you use so that you ONLY get BIG JOHN marks
> instead of marks containing both those names?
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> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> Susan Crane found the glitch.
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> You must *not* limit the search to “Wordmark”.   You can only search in
> “Search All”.    Try it.   You get vastly different results.
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> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
> of "Renee.Kraft via E-trademarks" <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:37 PM
> *To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *"Renee.Kraft" <Renee.Kraft at target.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> I also get 95 results with “big AND john” so at least there’s consistency!
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> Maybe try closing out of the current search session and starting a new
> one. You may have accidentally clicked something along the way that’s
> causing the issue. I sound like tech support….have you tried rebooting? J
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Crane, Susan via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:30 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Crane, Susan <susan.crane at wyndham.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> Odd, when I search “big john” in quotes, I get 95 results for marks
> consisting of Big John
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> *Susan L. Crane*
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> *Group Vice President, Legal*
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> *Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing*
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Richard Morris via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:24 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Richard Morris <richard at 4trademark.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. I can search for
> “BIGJOHN” for example. But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get
> hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG. I
> only want to retrieve
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> I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark.
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> I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG JOHN”
> as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or
> just the term BIG.
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> I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words.
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> Please help.
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> Thanks
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> Richard
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> *From: *E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf
> of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Reply-To: *"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to
> seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM
> *To: *"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc: *Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
> *Subject: *[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...
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> to post a big WHINE about the new search function.
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> I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers, to
> name a couple of whines.
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> Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS
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> There are so many more whines.
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> PTO—are you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.
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> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac Law
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