[E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
Mark Kaufman
kaufman at kaufmankahn.com
Tue Dec 17 15:48:59 UTC 2024
If anyone remembers my tale of subterfuge from last week: the actual
attorney who purportedly filed the Section 8 & 9 without my client’s
authorization (and which I wrested back from him by filing a CAR and a new
Section 8 & 9, at the wise counsel of you fine people) was also admitted in
2021, consistent with what Kevin noted below in his logjam situation – but
my fraudulent user (using the wrong bar admission number) has filed a mere
267 applications since then…
Thanks,
Mark
*From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
Of *Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2024 10:39 AM
*To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal
advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
*Cc:* Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com>
*Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
Yes and Ken Boone has been doing a variety of son-of-TESS searches in
recent months that are designed to try to sniff out clusters of
applications that sound similar to this kind of fact pattern. He keeps
finding various ways to craft a search and he keeps finding whole tranches
of applications that seem to be stalled in one way or another.
Which raises the natural question -- why is there (apparently) nobody at
the Trademark Office monitoring this kind of thing and doing whatever is
needed to break logjams? If Ken can do a search and with a few mouse
clicks find 200 or 700 applications that are stalled in a particular way,
why is there no one in management at the Trademark Office doing those
searches and taking appropriate corrective steps?
On 12/17/2024 8:07 AM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:
Side note to this—it appears that the PTO has a habit of just taking no
action on suspicious applications/filers until it figures out what to do
with them. Case in point: one of my partners has an application suspended
because of a prior pending application. That application (and 7 others by
the same applicant) were filed roughly a year ago but no action has been
taken on any of them. The applicant has a real attorney—at least, the
applications indicate they were filed by an attorney licensed in NY, and
this person is actually licensed there—but that attorney, despite being
admitted to the bar only in 2021, has filed over 4000 applications to
date. There are no notes in the files of the blocking application or its 7
companions, no letter of protest or something else that would explain why
the PTO has just allowed these applications to sit even as they otherwise
seem to be getting pendency down a bit. Who knows how long we’ll have to
wait until the PTO acts and the suspension is lifted?
*Kevin Grierson***
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<e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Boone via
E-trademarks
*Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2024 11:59 PM
*To:* E-Trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
*Cc:* Ken Boone <boondogles at hotmail.com> <boondogles at hotmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
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I have watched this discussion from afar from the beginning. I hope the
originator has found a USPTO contact sympathetic to his concerns.
Meanwhile, ...
While the *SA - Status* field on Trademark Search remains a bit of a
mystery (as the contents of that field are not displayed but, from my
experience, that contents typically does NOT match the status description
displayed on TSDR, eliminating the option of an exact match search of the
TSDR status text on Trademark Search), I see *314 pending trademarks* for
the search
*SA:(review AND registration) AND LD:true AND PO:* NOT (UD:[20240301 TO *]
RN:*)*
suggesting that "*Review prior to registration completed*" (the TSDR status
of the pending marks I checked for that search) is yet another USPTO
*purgatory *status waiting complaints from the owner/attorney of record for
further action by the USPTO. As noted, that search retrieves 314 pending
trademarks today, where one of those pending trademarks appears to be the
trademark inspiring this E-Trademarks discussion.
Curious? Well, the search
UD:[20241216 TO *] AND SN:( 86980509 87769203 88110411 88232431 88472833
88756971 88789436 88843007 90057103 90521117 90706772 90735034 90753596
90780559 90783862 90804195 90812917 90822910 90872681 90887866 90899852
90979928 90979981 90980019 90980045 97017090 97031122 97067424 97075031
97100429 97100437 97108107 97133734 97137059 97159370 97160078 97166550
97169530 97172164 97194679 97202189 97202581 97204163 97206673 97216415
97218545 97227930 97239893 97263899 97266596 97271806 97279594 97285054
97285443 97289940 97294861 97299134 97303038 97304571 97304640 97304695
97316079 97321190 97325909 97327750 97338754 97341522 97342520 97348696
97356771 97358299 97361426 97361961 97363476 97363758 97369815 97386931
97389621 97393946 97395592 97399431 97402951 97410853 97411172 97417084
97417244 97418367 97418827 97418968 97421337 97422075 97423470 97423925
97425704 97428007 97430039 97430177 97431687 97433033 97433384 97433610
97435882 97435885 97435887 97439860 97440288 97440961 97441810 97442082
97445663 97445895 97445914 97446008 97446915 97449093 97449241 97452225
97452830 97453898 97455358 97457296 97457310 97459217 97461387 97461774
97461813 97463830 97464424 97466649 97468157 97469702 97470510 97471790
97472046 97472762 97473121 97473126 97473455 97473806 97475236 97476499
97477634 97478434 97478804 97479892 97482317 97483222 97484155 97484745
97485821 97485888 97486981 97487000 97487076 97488718 97492675 97493254
97494136 97494327 97494677 97497742 97497811 97498751 97499591 97504893
97506283 97508050 97508331 97513145 97514678 97517217 97520019 97522458
97524493 97532374 97533562 97536877 97538131 97545861 97547585 97550339
97551105 97552181 97552507 97555716 97563084 97563785 97564370 97567223
97567275 97569636 97571001 97571528 97574414 97576865 97578526 97582885
97583668 97587224 97588457 97589517 97590814 97593789 97593813 97602378
97603996 97606851 97607043 97607449 97609686 97611688 97614143 97614486
97622350 97623330 97623621 97627875 97629363 97632909 97638216 97638744
97641065 97645582 97649729 97653796 97657114 97658325 97658718 97665237
97665737 97669596 97673064 97676247 97677722 97677723 97677972 97680887
97681034 97681812 97683921 97686016 97686034 97686042 97688786 97690981
97692017 97694176 97694187 97694329 97698302 97698720 97703312 97703799
97704709 97704744 97704748 97705299 97707847 97708023 97709958 97710979
97711987 97715336 97715760 97718094 97718124 97720233 97725467 97725702
97726345 97730452 97730989 97731785 97734811 97738294 97743863 97744657
97745072 97748750 97748808 97749894 97750468 97750888 97756079 97762025
97763749 97768284 97803208 97809049 97812131 97824948 97837456 97842773
97855387 97888992 97908782 97975421 97975827 97976089 97976149 97976178
97976770 97977096 97977309 97977312 97977359 97977399 97977448 97977467
98031355 98034012 98043532 98079031 98114018 )
should retrieve any of those 314 pending trademarks for any future updates
on USPTO systems, so who (besides me) will be performing that search daily
to watch the future progress of those 314 pending *application in
limbo* trademarks?
Well, those pending trademarks *are *the responsibilities of the
owners/attorneys of record to monitor, so ... never mind. I'll probably
give up that daily search long before the year ends. So it goes.
Happy Trademarking,
Ken Boone
PS - My email editor complained about links in this message trail, so I
converted the message trail to text to (hopefully) remove any links.
Typically, I do NOT click on any links in postings for this discussion
group (that I hope the relevant links will appear via an Internet search on
a secure search platform from the relevant clues provided) and hope you use
the same caution (even on my postings, as scammers/dark webbers have
impersonated me).
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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of
Diane Gardner via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 4:29 PM
To: e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Cc: Diane Gardner <diane at mmip.com>
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
Hi Tom,
This happened to me also and I sent a message to TAC. TAC never responded
to me, but the registration issued within 48 hrs. after I sent the message.
Kind regards,
Diane L. Gardner
Reg. No. 36,518
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:25:06 +0000
From: Tom Vanderbloemen <tom at vanderbloemenlaw.com>
To: "e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com"
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Subject: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
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Friends ? We have an application that appears to be stuck in some limbo
state. ?Review prior to registration? happened in February, but still no
registration. We?ve tried reaching the examiner, but it may be that she is
no longer with the USPTO, and we?ve had no luck with the assistance
center. Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you,
Tom
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