[E-trademarks] Application in Limbo

[Sam Castree]

"*why is there no one in management at the Trademark Office doing those
searches and taking appropriate corrective steps?*"

Do we really think that people at the PTO can handle the search system as
well as Ken?

Cheers,

Sam Castree, III

*Sam Castree Law, LLC*
*3421 W. Elm St.*
*McHenry, IL 60050*
*(815) 344-6300*



On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:40 AM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Yes and Ken Boone has been doing a variety of son-of-TESS searches in
> recent months that are designed to try to sniff out clusters of
> applications that sound similar to this kind of fact pattern.  He keeps
> finding various ways to craft a search and he keeps finding whole tranches
> of applications that seem to be stalled in one way or another.
>
> Which raises the natural question -- why is there (apparently) nobody at
> the Trademark Office monitoring this kind of thing and doing whatever is
> needed to break logjams?  If Ken can do a search and with a few mouse
> clicks find 200 or 700 applications that are stalled in a particular way,
> why is there no one in management at the Trademark Office doing those
> searches and taking appropriate corrective steps?
> On 12/17/2024 8:07 AM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:
>
> Side note to this—it appears that the PTO has a habit of just taking no
> action on suspicious applications/filers until it figures out what to do
> with them.  Case in point: one of my partners has an application suspended
> because of a prior pending application.  That application (and 7 others by
> the same applicant) were filed roughly a year ago but no action has been
> taken on any of them.  The applicant has a real attorney—at least, the
> applications indicate they were filed by an attorney licensed in NY, and
> this person is actually licensed there—but that attorney, despite being
> admitted to the bar only in 2021, has filed over 4000 applications to
> date.  There are no notes in the files of the blocking application or its 7
> companions, no letter of protest or something else that would explain why
> the PTO has just allowed these applications to sit even as they otherwise
> seem to be getting pendency down a bit.  Who knows how long we’ll have to
> wait until the PTO acts and the suspension is lifted?
>
>
>
> *Kevin Grierson**​**​**​**​*
>
> |
>
> Partner
>
> <https://www.cm.law/>
>
>
> [image: Mobile:]
>
>   757-726-7799
>
> [image: Fax:]
>
>   866-521-5663
>
> [image: Email:]
>
>   kgrierson at cm.law
>
> *Please note: Culhane Meadows is now CM Law
> <https://www.cm.law/cm-law-formerly-culhane-meadows-launches-second-decade-with-fresh-name-and-modern-brand/>*
>
>
>
> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>
> <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Boone via
> E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2024 11:59 PM
> *To:* E-Trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
> *Cc:* Ken Boone <boondogles at hotmail.com> <boondogles at hotmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
>
>
>
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
>
> I have watched this discussion from afar from the beginning.  I hope the
> originator has found a USPTO contact sympathetic to his concerns.
> Meanwhile, ...
>
>
>
> While the *SA - Status* field on Trademark Search remains a bit of a
> mystery (as the contents of that field are not displayed but, from my
> experience, that contents typically does NOT match the status description
> displayed on TSDR, eliminating the option of an exact match search of the
> TSDR status text on Trademark Search), I see *314 pending trademarks* for
> the search
>
>
>
> *SA:(review AND registration) AND LD:true AND PO:* NOT (UD:[20240301 TO *]
> RN:*)*
>
>
>
> suggesting that "*Review prior to registration completed*" (the TSDR
> status of the pending marks I checked for that search) is yet another USPTO
> *purgatory* status waiting complaints from the owner/attorney of record
> for further action by the USPTO.  As noted, that search retrieves 314
> pending trademarks today, where one of those pending trademarks appears to
> be the trademark inspiring this E-Trademarks discussion.
>
>
>
> Curious?  Well, the search
>
>
>
> UD:[20241216 TO *] AND SN:( 86980509 87769203 88110411 88232431 88472833
> 88756971 88789436 88843007 90057103 90521117 90706772 90735034 90753596
> 90780559 90783862 90804195 90812917 90822910 90872681 90887866 90899852
> 90979928 90979981 90980019 90980045 97017090 97031122 97067424 97075031
> 97100429 97100437 97108107 97133734 97137059 97159370 97160078 97166550
> 97169530 97172164 97194679 97202189 97202581 97204163 97206673 97216415
> 97218545 97227930 97239893 97263899 97266596 97271806 97279594 97285054
> 97285443 97289940 97294861 97299134 97303038 97304571 97304640 97304695
> 97316079 97321190 97325909 97327750 97338754 97341522 97342520 97348696
> 97356771 97358299 97361426 97361961 97363476 97363758 97369815 97386931
> 97389621 97393946 97395592 97399431 97402951 97410853 97411172 97417084
> 97417244 97418367 97418827 97418968 97421337 97422075 97423470 97423925
> 97425704 97428007 97430039 97430177 97431687 97433033 97433384 97433610
> 97435882 97435885 97435887 97439860 97440288 97440961 97441810 97442082
> 97445663 97445895 97445914 97446008 97446915 97449093 97449241 97452225
> 97452830 97453898 97455358 97457296 97457310 97459217 97461387 97461774
> 97461813 97463830 97464424 97466649 97468157 97469702 97470510 97471790
> 97472046 97472762 97473121 97473126 97473455 97473806 97475236 97476499
> 97477634 97478434 97478804 97479892 97482317 97483222 97484155 97484745
> 97485821 97485888 97486981 97487000 97487076 97488718 97492675 97493254
> 97494136 97494327 97494677 97497742 97497811 97498751 97499591 97504893
> 97506283 97508050 97508331 97513145 97514678 97517217 97520019 97522458
> 97524493 97532374 97533562 97536877 97538131 97545861 97547585 97550339
> 97551105 97552181 97552507 97555716 97563084 97563785 97564370 97567223
> 97567275 97569636 97571001 97571528 97574414 97576865 97578526 97582885
> 97583668 97587224 97588457 97589517 97590814 97593789 97593813 97602378
> 97603996 97606851 97607043 97607449 97609686 97611688 97614143 97614486
> 97622350 97623330 97623621 97627875 97629363 97632909 97638216 97638744
> 97641065 97645582 97649729 97653796 97657114 97658325 97658718 97665237
> 97665737 97669596 97673064 97676247 97677722 97677723 97677972 97680887
> 97681034 97681812 97683921 97686016 97686034 97686042 97688786 97690981
> 97692017 97694176 97694187 97694329 97698302 97698720 97703312 97703799
> 97704709 97704744 97704748 97705299 97707847 97708023 97709958 97710979
> 97711987 97715336 97715760 97718094 97718124 97720233 97725467 97725702
> 97726345 97730452 97730989 97731785 97734811 97738294 97743863 97744657
> 97745072 97748750 97748808 97749894 97750468 97750888 97756079 97762025
> 97763749 97768284 97803208 97809049 97812131 97824948 97837456 97842773
> 97855387 97888992 97908782 97975421 97975827 97976089 97976149 97976178
> 97976770 97977096 97977309 97977312 97977359 97977399 97977448 97977467
> 98031355 98034012 98043532 98079031 98114018 )
>
>
>
> should retrieve any of those 314 pending trademarks for any future updates
> on USPTO systems, so who (besides me) will be performing that search daily
> to watch the future progress of those 314 pending *application in limbo* trademarks?
> Well, those pending trademarks *are *the responsibilities of the
> owners/attorneys of record to monitor, so ... never mind. I'll probably
> give up that daily search long before the year ends. So it goes.
>
>
>
> Happy Trademarking,
>
> Ken Boone
>
>
>
> PS - My email editor complained about links in this message trail, so I
> converted the message trail to text to (hopefully) remove any links.
> Typically, I do NOT click on any links in postings for this discussion
> group (that I hope the relevant links will appear via an Internet search on
> a secure search platform from the relevant clues provided) and hope you use
> the same caution (even on my postings, as scammers/dark webbers have
> impersonated me).
> ------------------------------
>
> From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of
> Diane Gardner via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 4:29 PM
>
> To: e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>
> Cc: Diane Gardner <diane at mmip.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
>
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
>
>
> This happened to me also and I sent a message to TAC. TAC never responded
> to me, but the registration issued within 48 hrs. after I sent the message.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Diane L. Gardner
>
> Reg. No. 36,518
>
> _____________________________________________________________
>
> Please note our new corporate address as of February 1, 2023:
>
> Mastermind IP Law P.C., 440 N. Barranca Ave. #6387, Covina, CA 91723
>
> 760.294.5160 tel. 706.955.9666 tel. 803.226.0741 tel.  ▪  diane at mmip.com
>  e-mail
>
> CA Lic. No. 196214   DC Lic. No. 470855   USPTO Reg. No. 36518
>
>
>
> Please note our expedited mail processing address as of February 1, 2023:
>
> Mastermind IP Law P.C., 532 Forest Bluffs Rd., Aiken, SC 29803
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> This communication is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act, 18 U.S.C. §§2510-2521.  It is sent by a law firm for its intended
> recipient only, and may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are
> not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for
> delivering this communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or copying
> of this communication is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this
> communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (706)
> 955-9666 or e-mail reply, delete it from your system, and destroy any hard
> copy you may have printed.  Absent an executed engagement agreement with
> Mastermind IP Law P.C., this message does not constitute legal advice, and
> it does not establish any previously non-existent professional relationship
> with, or representation of the recipient. Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 3
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:25:06 +0000
>
> From: Tom Vanderbloemen <tom at vanderbloemenlaw.com>
>
> To: "e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com"
>
>         <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>
> Subject: [E-trademarks] Application in Limbo
>
> Message-ID:
>
>         <
> BN8PR18MB23549B479EE486B89AF3C5CBD13E2 at BN8PR18MB2354.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>
>
> Friends ? We have an application that appears to be stuck in some limbo
> state.  ?Review prior to registration? happened in February, but still no
> registration.  We?ve tried reaching the examiner, but it may be that she is
> no longer with the USPTO, and we?ve had no luck with the assistance
> center.  Do you have any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> __________________________
>
>
>
> Tom Vanderbloemen
>
> Vanderbloemen Law Firm, P.A.
>
> 330 East Coffee Street
>
> Greenville, SC 29601
>
> 864-250-9530 (main)
>
> 864-501-2627 (direct)
>
>
>
> --
> E-trademarks mailing list
> E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
> http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/2746a059/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 5049 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/2746a059/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.png
Type: image/png
Size: 285 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/2746a059/attachment-0001.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image003.png
Type: image/png
Size: 452 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/2746a059/attachment-0002.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image004.png
Type: image/png
Size: 394 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/2746a059/attachment-0003.png>